It's the pilot, not the plane.

[Apache]

Put Grunherz and Urchin in a 190. Put Rude and Yeager in a P51D. Let them go at it. Who’s gonna win 2 out of 3? Leviathn in a spit against Rammjagr in a 109. Vulcan in a Typhoon against Kbman in an La7. Drex in a P47 against anyone in anything? Who’s gonna win 2 out of 3? All the aircraft stats just went out the window didn’t they? You may have an opinion but you’re not really certain. Is the aircraft type going to make a difference? I bet not.

Some say perk the SpitIX. Why? Just go down the list gentlemen. You will eventually be at the bottom and none left to perk. We will always have new folks. At least I hope we do. It is inevitable that most new people will gravitate to a realatively easy plane to fly. How many times have we seen a newbie ask on ch.1 what he/she should fly and they are told, spit, n1k or la7?

Furthermore, I submit that if you are killed in a 190D9 by a SpitIX, then you're a doofus. Should never happen.

Leave the SpitIX, the N1K and La7 alone. Its not the plane, it’s the pilot.

[lazs1]

some planes are starting with about a 5% or so inherent advantage over others but other than that it is all pilot and circustance.  Mostly, if you die a lot then you are in the wrong plane for your "style"..  

Some guys of course can make any plane work for them.
lazs

[Beach]

lmao, it doesnt matter who is flying what, they all get me. hehe
BeachS

[Nath[BDP]]

Grunherz and Urchin in a 190. Put Rude and Yeager in a P51D. Let them go at it. Who’s gonna win 2 out of 3?

Tough one, if by 190 you mean a D9 then I'd say Grunherz and Urchin, however the superior stall-ability of the P51 could give a siginificant advantage to the Allied team especially early in the post-merge situation. However, this can be countered easily with certain techniques.

 

Leviathn in a spit against Rammjagr in a 109  

Tough one.

 

Vulcan in a Typhoon against Kbman in an La7

The La7 for sure, only thing the Typhoon has is max speed.

 

Drex in a P47 against anyone in anything? Who’s gonna win 2 out of 3?  

The anyone in anything, probably...

[Apache]

Counter points Nath. (BTW, glad you're back).

 

Tough one, if by 190 you mean a D9 then I'd say Grunherz and Urchin, however the superior stall-ability of the P51 could give a siginificant advantage to the Allied team especially early in the post-merge situation. However, this can be countered easily with certain techniques.

You strengthened my position with the last sentence.

 

Tough one.

Agreed.

 

The La7 for sure, only thing the Typhoon has is max speed.

Vulcan in a Typhoon against 1 month newbie in an La7. Who will win 2 out of 3?

 

The anyone in anything, probably...

I said Drex, not lazs, lol.

[Zippatuh]

Hmmmmm, Apache in an LA7, Zippatuh in an LA7, who wins 2 out a 3?

Been a few months, not sure if I remember your flying style, I’ll put the money on me though  .

Zippatuh

[Nath[BDP]]

Drex is pretty good, but the P47 sucks.

[chad]

P47 any place, any time.

You just dont know how to fly a P47 correctly to its advatages Nath[BDP]. So give the P47 a try, get to 25K feet and lets see if this changes you're mind.

[Kieran]

Drex and Frenchy are the only two P-47 pilots that I have struggled with 1 vs. 1. It is definitely the pilot in those cases, because the P-47 ain't that good IMHO.

[Nath[BDP]]

I'm well aware of the P47's strengths and weaknesses, as I am also well aware of the strengths and weaknesses of all the aircraft in AH. Any plane can be successfull by flying at high altitude and diving down to get kills, 25k is not the AH norm, fortunatly--so, the P47 is limited to low alt fights and this is where my opinion is in reference to.

Figuratively speaking, the P47 is outmatched by 95% of the aircraft in AH at med-low alts. I doubt anyone would be foolish enough to duel a P47 at 25k+ unless they are in another aircraft optimized for high altitude fights and if the opponent chooses another aircraft that is suited for that evironment, chances are that aircraft will also outmatch the P47 in that environment.

G10, Ta 152, Me 262, F4U-4, D9(close).

I'd take an A8 for tradition though.

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[Apache]

Originally posted by Zippatuh:
Hmmmmm, Apache in an LA7, Zippatuh in an LA7, who wins 2 out a 3?

Been a few months, not sure if I remember your flying style, I’ll put the money on me though   .

Zippatuh

Go back to sleep zip. hehe

[Tac]

Superpilot (drex/fester) in their rides vs avg. skill pilot in spit/la7/n1k MAY result in the higher skilled pilot winning, but you cannot deny that the spit/la7/n1k do give the avg pilot a "boost".

Heck, put drex or fester in a spitIX or la7 and see if they ever get shot down    

[AKSWulfe]

Spitfire MkV: Great Turner, great diver (as it was in real life- wasn't it the IX that got to Mach .92 in a dive?).

Spitfire MkIX: Decent top speed, mediocre acceleration, great turning (mediocre when compared to V, and great diver.

La7: Very Mediocre turner, very fast, doesn't slow down as quickly in a turn and excellent acceleration. 3 cannon option makes it a newbie's choice.

In every game I've been in, newbies gravitate to the Spits. Hell, I did in WarBirds because it was my first time online. Shortly after I got used to the flight model (most advanced at the time), I started to really like the German aircraft.

Sure, some planes are easier to give you angles on the plane you are fighting against... but you allowed them to use their plane's strengths against your plane's weaknesses.

A perfect example of why it's the pilot, not the plane.
-SW

[popeye]

Some pilots are better than others, but all planes are equal?  Right.

[Nath[BDP]]

All I ever see Fester doing is BnZing, anyone can not get shot down flying like that.

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