Child abuse

[Hortlund]

We had another case of child abuse in Sweden this week.

Right now a 6 weeks old baby girl is fighting for her life in a University hospital in northern Sweden. Police arent giving too many details, but some info has leaked. She has broken ribs on both sides of her chest, and she has a head damage (in Sweden its called shaken baby syndrome or damage) it comes from when you grab a baby and shakes him/her violently. The injuries on the ribs and in the head are consistent with someone picking the baby up, holding her hard while shaking her violently.

Her dad, a 19 yr old has been arrested, and her mom, also aged 19 has been apprehended by the police, she will be arrested tomorrow.

I dont know if it is because I have kids myself, but just thinking about that little girl and those two "parents" just makes me so sad, I mean those "parents" are all she has in this world. How can they do such a thing. It's...I just dont know what to say really.

And at the same time it fills me with such ice cold hate. So help me I would like to borrow one of Lazs guns and get my hands on those "parents".

wtf is wrong with people?

[TWOLF]

This is all to common in the world.  We hear about such things here in the U.S. everyday on our evening news.  Sometimes I wonder if there is any hope for our specie.

[mrfish]

Originally posted by Hortlund
wtf is wrong with people?

good question. let me know if you figure it out because i'm  often asking the same.

i think it's that we're at a weak time in history- a few thousand more years and i think some of this will tame out hopefully as people become smarter.

[hardcase]

40k children starved to death today. 40K tomorow and every day after. Humans are smart enough to become twisted by the silliest things.

HC

[AKDejaVu]

There is a difference between starving to death and being starved to death.  But go ahead and use gross stats to dismiss the total lack of compassion.

I liked it better when you just posted WWIIOnline stuff... I was less likely to stumble across your inane ramblings.

AKDejaVu

[Sandman]

In the U.S., during the year 2000:

Approximately 879,000 children were found to be victims of child maltreatment. Maltreatment categories typically include neglect, medical neglect, physical abuse, sexual abuse, and psychological maltreatment. Almost two-thirds of child victims (63%) suffered neglect (including medical neglect); 19 percent were physically abused; 10 percent were sexually abused; and 8 percent were psychologically maltreated.

source: http://www.jimhopper.com/abstats/

[Preon1]

When modern society weeds out most forms of social darwinism, many types of behavior slip through the cracks.  I'm not trying to say that this baby being shaken was inevitable, or that a child born from a pair of nineteen year olds is necessarily doomed to a pitiable life, but those two kids that are now in jail should have never become parents in the first place.  The whole incident is a trajedy.

[Dowding]

There is a difference between starving to death and being starved to death.

Not to the kid in question, it isn't.

And when a warlord diverts foreign aid to his own troops, knowing fullwell that his people are starving, he might as well be using his own hands - but he possesses the benefit of proxy, so keeps his hands clean.  

I don't think people are more 'evil' now than they were in years gone by. Events get reported now where before there simply wasn't the coverage. All that has changed is that we seem to want to believe we are better than previous generations - in alot of ways that's the most untrue statement you'll find.

[Gunthr]

40k children starved to death today. 40K tomorow and every day after. Humans are smart enough to become twisted by the silliest things.

- hardcase


I don't know exactly what hardcase meant by the above, but I do understand the need to disassosciate.

It really is quite painfull to contemplate some of the neglect, abuse and torture of children that goes on... broken bones, intentional repeated burns for wetting the bed, and so on.  If you must be involved closely with a case, it just doesn't leave you very quickly when your part is finished.

[AKDejaVu]

Originally posted by Dowding
Not to the kid in question, it isn't.

And when a warlord diverts foreign aid to his own troops, knowing fullwell that his people are starving, he might as well be using his own hands - but he possesses the benefit of proxy, so keeps his hands clean.

Dowding... I know why there is so much starvation in Africa, but thanks for the lesson anyways.  And I totally agree in regards to the warlords that are playing their little power games... but there really isn't much you can do about it without getting that "policeman" label attatched.

I see many "migrations" or lines of people trying to find food for their families... its just that there is none to be had either due to nature or the government.

Then there's the parent that kills his kid because he won't stop crying.

The two are not the same, and one does not dismiss the other.

I don't think people are more 'evil' now than they were in years gone by. Events get reported now where before there simply wasn't the coverage. All that has changed is that we seem to want to believe we are better than previous generations - in alot of ways that's the most untrue statement you'll find.

I actually agree with this.  I'd tend to think its because the NEWS is highlighting things these days that were not broadcast in days gone by.  More reported does not equal more frequent.

AKDejaVu

[Curval]

Guys..this is Sweden, not Somalia.

What warlords or starving children in other countries has to do with what Horland posted I have NO IDEA.

This child was beaten and shaken almost to death..it is a heinous crime and the parents should be jailed for life...at a minimum.  They certainly should never be allowed to have any more children.  Chemically castrate the guy and then tie up her tubes.

[Airhead]

We had an article in the Sacramento Bee today about a 24 year old man having to be released from custody  while awaiting charges of sexual abuse against his 7 year old son. The reason he was released was because the seven year old died- he was beaten to death by the mother's new boyfriend.

My wife has a friend who works for Child Protective Services here in Sacramento County and she says many kids are still in at risk enviroments because there's no place to put these kids once you remove them from the home. Definately a sad commentary on modern society, huh?

[Kanth]

This is why I say people should have to earn the right to have children and/or pets.

 Being licensed/certified and suprise audited imo would help these people having children/pets willy nilly would have to take it a little more seriously.

Also child abuse should have many other law infractions tacked onto it to signify the abuse of power over the helpless, the human rights violations, not just the harm to a human being because it's not the same when they don't have any choice, can't defend themselves and can't get away.

throw the effing book at these people, and sterilize them.

[AKDejaVu]

Yep.. it is Airhead.

The recent killings of two teen girls in Oregon City highlighted this too.

AKDejaVu

[Dowding]

The two are not the same, and one does not dismiss the other.

I wasn't dismissing anything. When a kid dies in horrific circumstances, whether it is in Sweden, Somalia, Britain, America or Iraq it's still terrible.

Curval:

Guys..this is Sweden, not Somalia.

Eh? How does that matter? Suffering is suffering is suffering. This case in Sweden elicits the same response from as the case just mentioned about the 7 year old boy, or babies starving to death in Iraqi hospitals as a political tool for Saddam.

Geography be damned.