Author Topic: Change is afoot over "there"... (Read 1673 times)

Revvin · « **Reply #15 on:** January 10, 2003, 06:28:23 PM »

Could'nt help but take a swipe at AH you never change Cabby

Before you make such uninformed comments you might actually try getting some facts together. The arena's are far from being 'mayhem' and a damn sight more organised that what I've seen in Warbirds helped partly through the mission editor. Yes there are some uber planes flying round but many mid war ones too and some early way if it takes your fancy. Your beloved S3's have their alternative in Aces High with the TOD series which runs in Euro friendly times so it's not just the 'American Squadron Select Series' like it has been in Warbirds for years. As for community..well I was given a warm welcome when I arrived here and made many friends here.

This is a sad day for Warbirds, it feels like it's lost it's rudder and no ammount of player input will replace an experienced programmer but it looks like that's what Wild Bill is banking on. He's repeating the same mistakes over and over like some sick parody of 'Ground Hog Day' I seem to recall him trying to split the community over continental servers, driving the original dev team away and sellign half baked boxed games before and so we go roudn and round on the Wild Billy merry go round.

funkedup · « **Reply #16 on:** January 10, 2003, 06:40:33 PM »

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Perhaps Aces High can assume the mantle of the Warbird's Squadron Select Series

TOD is just as good (and as big) as S3. Plus we have the official AH scenarios (big ones) like WB used to have back in the day. Plus CAP plus Snapshots.

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add Early War aircraft

Here's the list of planes: http://www.hitechcreations.com/ahhelp/models/models.html
More early war stuff there than in WB3.

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make it's "Ground War" into something less arcadish

It's no less arcadish than the one in WB.

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and move it's Graphics Engine up to today's standards.

I agree that it could look a lot better, but HT has kept the graphics engine simple so it can run on low end machines. The minimum required PC for AH is a lot lower than its competitors, and that is intentional.

Swoop · « **Reply #17 on:** January 10, 2003, 06:44:47 PM »

Say Funked, do you know what the word nemesis means?

Cabby44 · « **Reply #18 on:** January 10, 2003, 07:03:58 PM »

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"The minimum required PC for AH is a lot lower than its competitors, and that is intentional."

That's gotta change................

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"The arena's are far from being 'mayhem' and a damn sight more organised that what I've seen in Warbirds helped partly through the mission editor..""

That's merely your opinion. And it's wrong............

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"Your beloved S3's have their alternative in Aces High with the TOD series which runs in Euro friendly times so it's not just the 'American Squadron Select Series' like it has been in Warbirds for years."

"Euro-Friendly" is not "USA Friendly". WB's is a USA-based game. Our Euro friends have the "EMC's"..........

My opinions posted above are the opinions of many. They may be wrong or they may be right. But they exist nonetheless. For many of us............

C.

C.

Yeager · « **Reply #19 on:** January 10, 2003, 07:22:40 PM »

Damn cabby. Ive really missed your presence these past few years. Maybe not your perspective but mine: This community would have been better with you in it. I cant say that for alot of people who stayed on with iEN.

In any event, I hope you have enjoyed your time in WBs and I hope it can manage to continue for you and others who call it home.

Dinger · « **Reply #20 on:** January 10, 2003, 07:45:06 PM »

Having lived in both time zones, I gotta say that the EMC, while a quality event, never got anywhere close to S3 during my tenure. And I CO'd a few EMCs.

That being said, read the subtext. Vlasov is being too generous in asking HS to "tell more". That post is clearly a squeak about ol' Wild Bill calling the shots for over a year. Do the math.

poopster · « **Reply #21 on:** January 10, 2003, 08:18:02 PM »

It's unfortunate but personally I waiting for the other shoe to drop...

Somehow over the last few years the thought of "community" got cut up into "communities" in rival sims. For some they are seperate entities. I would disagree. Flight sim junkies, be flight sim junkies regardless of the "game".

Flight sim junkies here are the same as there and as Funked pointed out there are ALOT of ex-WB'ers here. A good deal of my squad are ex-WB'ers. Granted they have oxygen tanks attached to their wheel chairs as I do...

The splendid help here pushes us up to our moniter five nights a week round about 6:30'ish making sure our pee bags are empty...

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Can Aces High replace WBIII for all of us WB'ers?? The answer is: "Not for most of us"

If you qualify that with "those left now" I would agree with you. With a sizable portion of those remaining flyin Macs, that goes without saying.

Those that have stayed through all this are not going to be satisfied with ANYTHING in ANY OTHER online sim because of brand loyalty. Been too long.

What's left of the large community that was, is a small group of strident supporters that are "closed" to an alternative or handcuffed by their operating system. Can't do anything about that. That's just the way it is.

Personally, this is a fun place that rivals anything that took place a long, long time ago in the WB of old. Great people here, fun people here. Good scenario squads, with one in particular being top notch and a great bunch of guys.. But I'm predjudiced

Holding on to what was, and ignoring what is, tends to make you spend your time NOT flying and dying.

I chose to fly.

Good choice in my view.

You would be a good addition to the TOD's and scenarios.

And if you forgot the feeling of your hair catching fire ?? Drop into the Main..

Nuff people there to keep your hands full. A throw back to "once upon a time" that are in WB the days of old..

Look for the low wheelchairs round 6:30'ish Pacific. Oldtimers in wheelchairs. Ain't nothin better.

If the oxygen bottles are full-up, your in for a tussel..

Even with those damm pale green tubes giving us boogers...

They're pickable, and gives one something to do while hitting the fridge ( with the help of the staff here ) inbetween sorties..

CptTrips · « **Reply #22 on:** January 10, 2003, 09:41:55 PM »

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And i can tell you that most WB'ers are NOT interested in flying around in a "Mayhem Arena" packed with 600 players flying the Uber-Plane Du Jour. We have been there and done that. Most of us would rather quit online flight-sims altogether then repeat that old nonsense.

Ohhh puuuleeez. I'm curious on how you got elected to speak for "most" of the WB community.

Guess what? "MOST" of the WB community is IN Aces High and has been for some time. Or at least the best of them. Whats left over there falls broadly into two groups: mac users, and the overly strident, militant flightsim Taliban hunkered down in their dusty little cave shivering around a meager fire swearing bitterly to go down fighting and never give in to that "other" game.

Wab

AKDejaVu · « **Reply #23 on:** January 10, 2003, 09:55:06 PM »

I have to ask...

Just what did Hotseat do for WB? Get a new graphics engine and impliment "WB3"?

I am quite curious to see what game he is developing... and how that comes along. One that he started from scratch.

AKDejaVu

PS.. this is intended as a serious question... not a troll. Did Warbirds get better with Hotseat at the helm?

Toad · « **Reply #24 on:** January 10, 2003, 10:10:09 PM »

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Originally posted by Oedipus
lol. Crabby, meet Grizzly. Grizzly, meet Crabby.
Oed

Be fair. It wasn't (still isn't?) just Grizzly.

Some of us here flew all three games (four if you count a brief test of FA) starting with AW on GEnie. Some can move along with fond memories, some can never let go, I guess.

I had fun in all of them...OK, not FA..... and I enjoyed them while I played them.

ramzey · « **Reply #25 on:** January 10, 2003, 11:31:59 PM »

and what is ""Mayhem Arena"?

ramzey

Swager · « **Reply #26 on:** January 11, 2003, 12:11:12 AM »

There are a few long time WB players that, I believe, would not be very welcomed in the AH world due to the fact they insulted the Simulation and it's entire community many times over.

If HTC needs to improve their simulation to the so-called great "Warbirds standard" to capture those players, I certainly hope they never do it!

Just my opinion

Revvin · « **Reply #27 on:** January 11, 2003, 05:44:08 AM »

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My opinions posted above are the opinions of many

LOL and many many more Warbirders are actually playing Aces High. Your opinion is full of toejam, you're bitter and burnt your bridges by continually slagging off Aces High and the community you're about as welcome as a fart in a space suit. Your post shows your ignorance of what Aces High is really like. I never said that the S3's should be played in Euro times only but if you got your facts straight you would understand the statement I made about the TOD series as it's run in Euro and US friendly times, two events in different timezones so that Euro squads are not excluded like they are in WB with just the EMC to fly in (although I will say the EMC's were fun) The S3's only cater for US players so it is very much the 'American Squadron Select Series'.

beet1e · « **Reply #28 on:** January 11, 2003, 05:54:13 AM »

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you're about as welcome as a fart in a space suit

ROFL! I know that feeling

Dowding · « **Reply #29 on:** January 11, 2003, 06:24:13 AM »

Yeah, the community would be better off with Cabby aboard.

We need another bitter, vitriol filled vessel of mal-adjustment around here.

He never brings anything to a discussion other than his own brand of apoplectic rage. I'm not exaggerating to be nasty, I've seen his posts over the last couple of years.