Author Topic: Forget about teaching credentials... (Read 529 times)

Sandman · « **on:** January 11, 2003, 01:18:39 PM »

... this guy is so busted.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/doc_o_day/jaabbott1.html

Kieran · « **Reply #1 on:** January 11, 2003, 04:00:32 PM »

It took until December for a guy who is supposedly that blatant about sex (in class) to get nailed? Forgive me if I don't believe it. I think there is a far better chance the girl is pissed at him about grades or discipline. Any teacher acting and talking like that in class would be nailed in the first week.

Airhead · « **Reply #2 on:** January 11, 2003, 04:15:20 PM »

Kieran, read all the statements. I don't think you read all the way to Mr. Abbott's statement where he acknowledged some pretty bizarre behavior in his class. LOL Go back, read it, then tell us what you think.

Sikboy · « **Reply #3 on:** January 11, 2003, 04:18:12 PM »

Ooops, Airhead beat me to it lol

What a freakin handsomehunk this guy is.

-Sik

Kieran · « **Reply #4 on:** January 11, 2003, 04:25:31 PM »

Sorry, I just read the police report the girl filed my bad.

We had a gym teacher nearly fired a few years back... his class claimed he "mooned" them. It went to court, and our "union", which promised to back him to the hilt, walked him to the courthouse steps and said, "Good luck!"

Anyway... the guy is in the midst being tried, and the kids finally admit they just made it up because they didn't like him. If they'd stuck to their story, he'd have been fired and found liable in a civil suit. As it was, he was reassigned. Nothing happened to the little angels.

Guess this kind of stuff is a little touchy to me...

Sikboy · « **Reply #5 on:** January 11, 2003, 04:34:12 PM »

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Originally posted by Kieran
Sorry, I just read the police report the girl filed my bad.

You know what? If you hadn't mentioned your skepticism, I probably woundn't have read past that either lol.

-Sik

Exile · « **Reply #6 on:** January 11, 2003, 05:04:09 PM »

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Originally posted by Kieran
We had a gym teacher nearly fired a few years back... his class claimed he "mooned" them. It went to court, and our "union", which promised to back him to the hilt, walked him to the courthouse steps and said, "Good luck!"

Anyway... the guy is in the midst being tried, and the kids finally admit they just made it up because they didn't like him. If they'd stuck to their story, he'd have been fired and found liable in a civil suit. As it was, he was reassigned. Nothing happened to the little angels.

I don't know how teachers or any other professionals who work with children deal with knowing that all a child has to do is accuse them of some impropriety and their entire career could be over.

Are there any safeguards in place to help prevent these kind of situations?

Kieran · « **Reply #7 on:** January 11, 2003, 05:27:41 PM »

Not really. You are on your own. You learn how to avoid situations for the most part, but there's always the possibility you will be accused anyway. Sadly, the accusation is all it takes.

Shuckins · « **Reply #8 on:** January 11, 2003, 07:11:58 PM »

All it takes is one incident, one slip, or one vindictive kid and BOOM, thirty years of teaching can go down the tubes.

Shuckins

Fishu · « **Reply #9 on:** January 11, 2003, 07:36:15 PM »

Kids today are caressed too much.
It's not like they're going to fall apart if a stranger yells to them for a reason or someone punishes them so to just give the shock momentum.
but well, can't touch, can't yell, can't look badly.. can't even behave unnicely in their mind or the teacher is guilty of everything.

so wrong.. no wonder people doesn't learn anything

SFRT - Frenchy · « **Reply #10 on:** January 11, 2003, 08:19:57 PM »

The guy admits having marejuana in it's bag and let the students find out. (page 5)

A girl says she had bruises from the rubber band ... that's BS, I did it all the time to the girls in HS:D non ever had bruises.

The whole thing is fishy. I think the teacher was casual with it's students, treating them like "friends" maybe by it's HS years nostalgia or to try to look "cool and get accepted" and it backfired on him.
Cases like that won't happen too much in France as teachers are still backed up by the parents, more or less.

Face it, if it came to this extend in USA it's parents fault. I was a trouble maker in school, one time the teacher throw the eraser right on my head and I had a bruise from it. When I came home my mom asked me what happened, then slaped me and said :"In class you listen, you don't talk with your neighbor. It's disrespectfull for the teacher".

Kieran · « **Reply #11 on:** January 11, 2003, 08:26:56 PM »

I think that school corporation must have been pretty hard up to hire Mr. Abbott to begin with. The tip is that he is in technology... that's a field that has about a 5:1 job ratio in education right now. Schools can't keep up with the demand.

Yup, there is no question this fellow should be fired, based on his statement alone. But you did notice... the school fired him before his statement was taken, right? They were putting as much distance between the school and the teacher as possible. That is the way it really works.

Kieran · « **Reply #12 on:** January 11, 2003, 08:32:29 PM »

To follow... in my school corporation, I could not have:

1. used foul language
2. struck the children in any way or with any object
3. abused the students verbally
4. spoken in a lewd or sexually explicit manner
5. dispensed any medication whatsoever
6. made any sexual advances, or any comments that may be construed as such
7. brought onto school grounds alcohol or contraband drugs
8. invited any student unescorted to my private residence

Yes, this guy was just asking for it.

Airhead · « **Reply #13 on:** January 11, 2003, 09:12:54 PM »

The fact this is newsworthy shows just how uncommon teachers like this are. My child has always gone to public schools and her teachers have always been on the up and up, as are most of them. LOL Damn, I'm SO resisting the urge to troll and claim Shuckins and Kieran are typical of this teacher, but really, this idiotic freak is an anamoly who deserves to be fish eyed in prison. FWIW I'd be honored to have Kieran or Shuckins teach in my school district, just not Political Science.

john9001 · « **Reply #14 on:** January 12, 2003, 12:13:37 AM »

we don't need teachers anymore , the students are so smart they can teach themselves