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Offline AKIron

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« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2003, 12:06:03 PM »
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Well, let me see Kieran...

Iraq lets inspecters into country and gives them unbridled access over the entire country, including presidential palaces. Despite no evidence surfacing at this present moment in time, US begins to amass 150,000 strong army on Iraq's border, Britain makes arangements to send 30,000 troops and sends 16 warships including two carriers in the mean time.

North Korea kicks inspectors out and threatens war. West quickly offers food in return for disarmanent.

Yup, no inconsistency there.


A few inspectors are supposed to search how many thousands of square miles of desert in a few months? Of course Iraq has at least chemical weapons hidden somewhere.

No denying the whole thing is about oil. That's why we went to the defense of Kuwait to begin with. But when you get down to it the US really doesn't depend on Middle Eastern oil nearly so much as Europe and Japan. Because of this I will argue that it is for our allies benefit more than for oil prices in the US.
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« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2003, 12:12:41 PM »
APPEASEMENT

Guess that "axis of evil" thing didn't work out so well, now did it?

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« Reply #17 on: January 13, 2003, 12:34:27 PM »
You could have fooled me....where is it?

Oh.....there it is, it's called appeasment.

If N.K. had some oil wells we would go after them thar evil doers....but without oil that thar leg of the "Axis of Evil" just ain't evil enough to bother.



Meanwhile in Iraq Der Fuhrer Chimpler orders in more troops.

It only took one day from my pointing it out to see the emperor has no clothes.

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Offline Charon

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« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2003, 12:40:15 PM »
Sounds an awful lot like the Evil Clinton to me. Let the mental gymnastic begin.

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Offline lord dolf vader

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« Reply #19 on: January 13, 2003, 12:56:21 PM »
our forign policy is getting scary.

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« Reply #20 on: January 13, 2003, 01:21:52 PM »
Maybe we should pull out the 37000 American troops along the DMZ and relocate them to our own borders....just let the world deal with these regimes since Europe and others abroad seem to think we are so bad of a people and nation.

When something does go wrong and threaten the US, we'll just nuke em and go about our business....maybe that's preferable to trying to thwart, pre-empt or contain current threats....let our enemies strike first, then kill all of them, women, children, livestock and property. The policy would be simple and clear to understand by everyone....when we catch terrorists, let's just cut them up into little pieces and mail them to hamas or wherever we feel they come from. Kind of a leave us alone and you'll be fine foreign policy?

Bush should just quit and let Edwards or Gephardt deal with the war on terror and the rest. It's too hard to do something because it's right...expediency feels much better.

What do you guys think?

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« Reply #21 on: January 13, 2003, 01:28:25 PM »
That's easy, Charon... Bush will require proof.

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« Reply #22 on: January 13, 2003, 01:28:43 PM »
If nuclear preemptive strikes could be done in a way so the people are vaporized instantly then it might be the most humane solution.

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« Reply #23 on: January 13, 2003, 02:23:08 PM »
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"deal with the war on terror"


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Chimpy said: Sept. 13, 2001

"The most important thing is for us to find Osama Bin Laden.

It is our #1 priority and we will not rest until we find him"


But on March 13, 2002 Chimpy said:

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"I don't know where he is.

I have no idea and I really don't care.

It's not that important.

It's not our priority."


The reason why he doesn't care is because bin laden has served his only purpose in Chimpys eyes, he gave us an excuse to go into Afghanistan, and now he's using the Osama straw-man to go into Iraq

The bottom line is greed...and that's an ugly diddlying reason to get a lot of our boys killed.

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« Reply #24 on: January 13, 2003, 02:29:15 PM »
HAHAHAHAH and just a few days ago some people were complaining about Clintons 'Agreed Framework' - why he made such a deal.

Now it looks like Bush is gonna do the same :D.

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« Reply #25 on: January 13, 2003, 02:44:47 PM »
Thank you Dowding, Glad someone caught my point.
To top it all off The Inspectors want more evidence and time from the States...But the Bush Regime doesn't want to give it.
 Yep. Consistant.
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« Reply #26 on: January 13, 2003, 02:52:26 PM »
Jury's out on that, Santa. Depends how it's handled... you know, it might be a gesture he knows NK will never accept. Even then, what Bush requires by way of compliance is sure to be different from Clinton's.

Besides all that... I think you guys missed the point on the other thread. There you were, blaming the NK non-compliance on Bush- then it was proven Bush had nothing to do with it. You were all happy with the Clinton plan then. Now, Bush is offering a similar twig, and it's a bad idea. Clinton did not properly monitor the situation. Bush may.

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« Reply #27 on: January 13, 2003, 02:53:44 PM »
Ping- why can't the world take care of it's own problems, and why does the "Bush Regime" have to deal with 'em all?

N. Korea violated the UN's agreement... but they'd rather sit around with thumbs up their bellybutton and let us deal with this problem while pretending to be the good guy in Iraq.

Spare me the consistency line... both countries have been threatened, neither country has been invaded.
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« Reply #28 on: January 13, 2003, 03:08:30 PM »
AKS : Read my lips...I am tired of The US policy of trying their damndest to police The Worlds actions to suit their own agenda. Do you understand now?

 They go after Iraq for several reasons while having commited them themselves. They allow their allies to commit these terrible crimes against humanity but pick on others that dont play along with their Idea of world order.

I am Pointing out the Hypocrisy of the US Governments actions..and that is all.
IF the US decides to look out for poor little pissant countries than stop all the Dual standards and hypocritical actions.
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Offline AKS\/\/ulfe

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« Reply #29 on: January 13, 2003, 03:14:04 PM »
They go after Iraq for several reasons while having commited them themselves.

Oh wait... we used chemical/bio agents against our own people? We invaded neighboring countries with the intent of genocide?

We look out for our allies... not lil pissant countries.
-SW