Battleship versus Cruiser

[GPreddy]

Someone said they posted a comparision of the AH ships and WWII cruisers. I guess I missed the thread so does anyone have the link?

[Widewing]

I don't recall the thread, but I can tell you that we have a Baltimore class Heavy Cruiser. It is armed with nine 8" guns as the main battery, with twelve 5", 38 caliber guns as secondary. As well as 40mm Bofors. Actual ships were fitted with 20mm Orlicon guns as well.

My regards,

Widewing

[gofaster]

Most of which ended up scrapped after the war except for four. Two were converted to missile/shore batteries and two were converted to missile/anti-aircraft batteries.

[maxtor]

An actual Battleship would be handy when hitech gets back around to the navy thing (subs and all that).   Would like see Carriers stay in a much more historical mode of operation rather than driving up to beaches like a sea-going tank.

Would also like more manned  large gun positions - particularly on the escorts

[Slash27]

gofaster, are you refering to WW2 cruisers?

[viking73]

Thought these might be Alaska Class Cruisers with 12" guns.

[joeblogs]

I could swear one is sitting in the Philadelphia Navy yard.  You can see it driving up I95...

-blogs

Originally posted by gofaster
Most of which ended up scrapped after the war except for four. Two were converted to missile/shore batteries and two were converted to missile/anti-aircraft batteries.

[rshubert]

I was in on that thread about the cruisers a while back.  "Jane's Fighting Ships of WW2" shows that it could be a Baltimore or Oregon City class.  Both have very similar layouts.  I never get close enough to tell, does it have one or two funnels??  If one, Oregon City.  If two, Baltimore.

[rshubert]

I took the trouble to look, and it's got two funnels.  Baltimore.  Definitely.

[Karnak]

I'd love to see a Yamato class BB led task force with one or two Takao class CAs plus four to six Kagero / Yugumo class DDs with four troopships to spawn LVTs from.  Couple this addition with removing the ability for CV task forces to spawn LVTs and the CVs could then be used more realisticly for stand off support while the bigger, and better armored, BB task force oversees the close support of the troop landings.


Can you imagine attacking a ship with 150 25mm AA guns, plus her twelve dual purpose 5" guns?

That would be a sight to see.

[viking73]

First the cruiser. After studying it, it looks to be the Baltimore Class.







Now the carrier. Although the bridge is somewhat squared off, it appears to be a Ticonderoga Class (or Essex long Class).

[rshubert]

Did you notice that the island is on the wrong side of that carrier??  Either that, or that CV is steaming backwards at about 15 knots.  The original negative must have been reversed, since all american carriers have the island on the starboard side.  Not your fault, though, Viking.  Good research.

[viking73]

Ha, didn't knotice that. I could've flipped it if I had saw that. Good eyes.  

[Bluedog]

While we are on the subject, could someone please explain to me what the lettering actually means ?
Is CV Carrier Vessel?
Why is a Destroyer a DD? shouldnt it be DST or something?
What about CA? .....CrewsA?
BB??   Big Boat?

I'm a total handsomehunk about Navy stuff, to me a ship is a ship is a ship, and the ocean is no place for a human.(been dragged out of it once too many times for my liking)
I guess I could look all this up myself on the net somewhere, but I kinda like hearing it and learning stuff from you guys.

Thanks in advance.

Blue

[Ack-Ack]

Originally posted by Bluedog
While we are on the subject, could someone please explain to me what the lettering actually means ?
Is CV Carrier Vessel?
Why is a Destroyer a DD? shouldnt it be DST or something?
What about CA? .....CrewsA?
BB??   Big Boat?



Blue

The CV designation is a hold over from the time the US Navy had carriers for both aircraft and airships (blimps).  The V is the Navy's symbol for heavier-than-aircraft and Z is the designation for lighter-than-air blimps.  Since the US Navy no longer operations blimp carriers (CZ), all we have now are CVs.

The reason why destroyers are DDs is because when there isn't a suffix used in the designation, the first letter is repeated.  But what makes it confusing is that at a later date, a suffix can be added to an existing designation, such as DDG (Guided Missile Destroyer).

The letters themselves might not individually stand for anything, it is the designation as a whole that has some assigned meaning or definition.  Adding to the confusion, the Navy can also change the definitions without changing the designation.

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