Author Topic: Radar - somthing i think would improve (Read 783 times)

BGBMAW · « **on:** January 14, 2003, 08:21:49 PM »

ok..Yes my spelling was atrocious, excuse me. I typed quickly and never looked.

But I really would like an explanation why HTC shows the dot dar even when under dar to friendlies?

And also why we should or shoulnt have that.

As a squad that runs fairly large missions, it is very disappointing to have a "fellow" country man tell an nme country that we are in a sneak attak mode.

This seems to be happening more now.

and I do think the people doing this should be drawn and quartered... I will save the laungage for the vox channel.

Love BiGB
xoxo

P.S. Dam..that was horrible spelling on that last post.......HT..tht was funny..(your spelling reply)

hitech · « **Reply #1 on:** January 14, 2003, 08:37:25 PM »

Much better and apreciated. Was not commenting on your spelling, just the attidue of the post. Ask any one here, i'm the last person in the world to jump on some ones spelling.

The freindly dar is provided so you can find out where your country is attacking.

Spying sucks I agree.

Only possible working change I might consider is no friendly dar when below radar, not positive does it show friendlies below radar now?

Also are you sure it was a spy, base alerts are also trigered when you get close.

HiTech

Shane · « **Reply #2 on:** January 14, 2003, 09:13:49 PM »

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Originally posted by hitech
Only possible working change I might consider is no friendly dar when below radar, not positive does it show friendlies below radar now?
Also are you sure it was a spy, base alerts are also trigered when you get close.
HiTech

yeah friendlies show on dar regardless of alt... it's what makes /.wingman work....

as for the spying issue... well... personally i think it's kind of lame people feel the need to do that, but what with private comms i see no real way to prevent it from happening... plus with the rolling terrain, it can be quite easy for a few to inadvertently pop up into dar alt, if only briefly, and that's an indication something is up if someone happens to be looking at the map at the moment. it's not real hard to figure out when and where "under dar" raids are gonna be happening, especially on the smaller maps.

BNM · « **Reply #3 on:** January 14, 2003, 11:43:21 PM »

You can indeed see friendly dots under dar even on the other side of the map. I think this would be a nice 'enhancement' as I also believe alot of NOE missions are compromised due to this factor. Just my $.02...

ccvi · « **Reply #4 on:** January 15, 2003, 12:29:19 PM »

here something that seems to be a good solution:

http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=62529

BGBMAW · « **Reply #5 on:** January 15, 2003, 01:25:17 PM »

oo i like that idea..to disable ur icon..

But this should only be able to be done when under radar...

But I think if we just took out the icon when under dar(friendly ) this would be the best idea..(less work for players)

The problem we have been having is not on the terrain that rolls..and people pop up and down..Its been on complty flat surfaces(over water) that gets frustrating

And its not the Base alert flashing..we know that as soon as that goes they know someones there...

Its the 15+ guys upping when we are just outside the Base alert Ring that says..."Some one has squealed"...And its not a mission..cause they all uped in La7's..lololo:(

Im glad im not the only one who thinks this can be "changed-fixed" or whatever term you want to say,,,,how about "enhanced"

Love BiGB
xoxo

P.S. HT...are you mocking me? ..or is that your natural speeling too??

Furious · « **Reply #6 on:** January 15, 2003, 01:45:00 PM »

NOE is sneeky, spies are sneeky. so?

What you want is the ability to take bases without having to fight anything but the AI ack.

If having spies stops this, then I say we need more spies.

There was a time in the MA when friendly icons didn't show when they were below the dar. It was not good.

It was impossible to tell if someone had upped to defend a base (It appeared empty).

Also, it was very difficult to gauge the levels of participation by friendlies at any given field as the dots appeared/disappeared and bar increased/decreased continually.

There are many more reasons, imo, to keep it as it is now than to change it so folks can hide from the teammates.

F.

BigGun · « **Reply #7 on:** January 15, 2003, 02:04:34 PM »

I think the flashing base gives people long enough to up & defend if they so desire.

I think being under radar should be under radar for friendly & foe. Right now, friendly can see dots no matter, just not the bar dar.

It would make NOE attacks truely NOE. It would eliminate a fellow countryman from telling someone on the other side that a NOE attack is on the way.

Often times we run missions. More often now, we have quit posting missions in the game to avoid people broadcasting to the other country.

Eliminating dots under dar would serve as a game enhancement from my perspective. The flashing base gives enemy time to respond if they desire, so I don't think the spy thing is necessary.

hitech · « **Reply #8 on:** January 15, 2003, 02:11:33 PM »

BGBMAW: Not mocking infact I never even notice any speeling errors in your first post.

HiTech

BGBMAW · « **Reply #9 on:** January 15, 2003, 02:25:27 PM »

lol now i know you are HT...lololo Salute::

And yes I do believe flashing base gives enuff time to defend a base...So furiuos..your comment about"all you want to fight is the AI " is wrong

anyways..I still havent seen any comments on why this would be a bad thing ...

And if you need icons to show if someone is defending your base.owell..thats what the Text is for.."Hey We need help at A 11"..

To say we want to "hide " from our "teamates" is wrong...teammates dont tell the nme where you are....

And yes Spies are sneaky..the problme is..we cant do anything to them once we find out who is "spying"...we cant lynch them or shoot them..so till we find a good way to do that..we need to try to even this out a bit more.....A spy has no penalty..(except he cant swicth bak soon)

With the influx of new players..(Thank God ) we want there money..We will continue to see this..(spying)

Love BiGB
xoxox

john9001 · « **Reply #10 on:** January 15, 2003, 02:27:39 PM »

what we need is a means of catching spies and killing them

hitech · « **Reply #11 on:** January 15, 2003, 03:18:21 PM »

bgbmaw, I'm dead serious, it's why I make so many, I can not spot spelling errors unless I search each word very carfully for about 3 secs.

HiTech

MWHUN · « **Reply #12 on:** January 15, 2003, 03:41:52 PM »

How about this workaround... if you are running/participating in a mission and if you go below radar than not even "firendlies" can see you.

Otherwise radar functions the same as now. That way we have best of both worlds-you can log on and get an accurate picture of what is happening while allowing you to run a noe mission that can only be compromised by inept pilots and not some spy

SlapShot · « **Reply #13 on:** January 15, 2003, 04:34:27 PM »

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Originally posted by MWHUN
How about this workaround... if you are running/participating in a mission and if you go below radar than not even "firendlies" can see you.

Otherwise radar functions the same as now. That way we have best of both worlds-you can log on and get an accurate picture of what is happening while allowing you to run a noe mission that can only be compromised by inept pilots and not some spy

I like this idea !!!

"What you want is the ability to take bases without having to fight anything but the AI ack."

Furious ... I am sure that the guys that flew in the Dolittle raid wished that the attack was leaked so that they could have something to fight with when they reached their target. Just dropping bombs and egressing safely must be too boring.

The object of NOE is SURPRISE ... if you and or your countrymen aren't paying attention, then u will lose the base.

Myself and many others, I am sure, have broken up NOE raids because one guy got careless and popped the DAR and then it disappeared. We call out on country channel and we start to up.

If they don't pop the DAR, then the base flashes with more than ample time to up a defense. With the amount of people each country has online, and the amount of eyes that are scanning the map, very rarely do these NOE raids go without some sort of defense trying to up.

The spying is getting out of hand as of late. We have run just "MAW only" deep insertion NOE missions to an out of the way base, with no one flying over 200 ft AGL, and just as we approach, and sometime before we approach the radar circle, guys start upping like crazy ... we know that someone has ratted us out. It truely spoils the fun of planning, and executing to perfection, that type of mission.

Midnight · « **Reply #14 on:** January 15, 2003, 04:57:23 PM »

Yes, being squealed on by spies or whoever really sucks.

We had an NOE mission going on the Mindano (whatever) map, going to the far SW corner field from the most southern field. After flying for 15+ minutes to get there, we see 10+ enemy come charging aff the field all the sudden and before we tripped the base flasher.