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Offline DREDIOCK

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« on: January 15, 2003, 07:29:18 AM »
Anyone else been running into some of the supertigers I've seen on occasion as of late?

 Or since I know Im not the only one to run into them perhaps a better question would be... Whats WITH these supertigers I've been seeing as of late.

 These things cant be destroyed. I've had several instances where I've blasted away at tigers from  every conceivable angle with AP rounds. front,rear, sides And often being hit from several others at the same time.  Most at close range and with GOOD  hit sprites with very little or no effect only to have the tiger spin his turret around and pick us off one by one with a single shot.

 In the last few days I've seen several of these supertigers get hit with upwards of 40-50 shots of AP rounds and have seen the same thing happen. the driver spins his turret around and with a single on each takes out each tank (often other tigers)shooting at him. not to mention an instance last night where no less then 6 planes were also dropping bombs on him

Now Im sorry but anything hit with that many shots should eaither die. or fall apart just fron the sheer number of holes put into it particularly when being nailed by more then one tiger

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Offline KG45

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« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2003, 09:10:57 AM »
armor is just funky.

i've taken out a tiger with 2 flanks shots from my pz, and later been had my tiger killed by one shot to my frontal armor from another tiger. killed a pz with a h.o. shot to the turret from an m8.
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Re: Super Tiger??
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2003, 10:03:15 AM »
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Anyone else been running into some of the supertigers I've seen on occasion as of late?
Drediock


Last night I upped a Tiger, attacked a small group of Pzkfw IVs (two with an Ostwind kicker), and destroyed the first one with two shots, the Osti and I doid not engage.  I hit the second IV twice at close range with 88mm AP.  He hit me twice, I died, he was not even smoking.  I have to say the Tiger is a joke on the ground, hell to kill from the air (though I have done it with really really large eggs).

I won't take another, hit a tree it dies, wasted perk points.  I'll save mine in the event I am defending but never to attack, too fragile for ground fire.

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« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2003, 10:47:22 AM »
Yesterday I was standing directly right in front (d=400) of the enemy VH (me in Panzer).
4 or 5 times a Tiger poped up. I killed him every time. The 6th time he poped up he got me. The funny thing was that he managed to hit me several times with his 88mm (must be 7-9 times) and i had NO damage. I needed 1 to 5 hits to kill him. Most hits where in the right front near the front hatch.

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« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2003, 10:56:59 AM »
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Originally posted by Duedel
Yesterday I was standing directly right in front (d=400) of the enemy VH (me in Panzer).
4 or 5 times a Tiger poped up. I killed him every time. The 6th time he poped up he got me. The funny thing was that he managed to hit me several times with his 88mm (must be 7-9 times) and i had NO damage. I needed 1 to 5 hits to kill him. Most hits where in the right front near the front hatch.


See that is the absolute BS that drives people crazy.  You expect that on some occasions with some hits the right 75mms would disable a Tiger, but the idea of a Tiger hitting a IV at that range that many times and not destroying it is hard to swallow.  

Tell me, were you using HE or AP rounds?

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« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2003, 12:07:14 PM »
AP: Armor Piercing -> used for killing gv's or anything with an armor

HE: dont know what it means (anyone??) -> used for destroying field objects like gun emplacements and other buildings

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« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2003, 12:10:49 PM »
HE means high explosive

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« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2003, 04:46:58 PM »
The other night a tiger spawned out of the gv hanger on a base that was captured a few mins later. I was watching from the tower as 20 planes and a few gvs attack this tiger for prolly 20 25 mins it must have had 100.000lbs of ord dropped on it. It was quite funny watching all these guys auger into this tiger. I finally upped a stuka with the big bomb to go kill it. I about killed myself laughing at all the craters around this tiger. Lanc forms flew over dropping all ord at one time. All kinds of fighters dropping 1000lbs on it. I even saw another stuka drop a biggie on it. It was damaged disabled no tracks but all gun were working.  Bombs was hitting dead center on this thing and it would not die. I finally got to drop alt and was heading for it when and this is the funny part. I was the only plane inbnd on the tiger everyone else was rearming or had crashed allready. When for no reason other than acumulated damage the tiger exploded all by itself. The pilot didnt end out it exploded. I was LMAO big time.  I have never seen such a concentration of bomb craters any where. I only wish I had filmed it.
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« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2003, 05:35:56 PM »
Killed a Tiger with 2 100kg bombs I dropped from an IL-2.  Both of em hit dead on the top of the turret, looked like.  

I've killed Tigers with the rockets (RS-132 I think) from an IL-2 also- also by hitting the turret.

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« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2003, 05:43:44 PM »
In the CT This week we have the Tiger enabled for the Germans, and I have played with it and aganst it.

 Killed two Tigers at Greater than Icon range with a Maned field gun by shooting at the side of them, they blew UP this was verified by the doumbfounded Drives who said WTF was that?

 I had two Tigers Blow up with One hit in the side of the Tiger from a Panzer, their is a week spot on the Tiger side, the armor whear the road wheals is, is only 60mm (the Hull), the superstructure is 80mm thick.

 I also had 3 Tigers Blow right out from under me in just a single attempt by guyes who defently know how to drop a bomb, typhoon's droping two 1000 pounders.

 I have also sean people who are not to paitent or maybe nead a bit more practice drop tons of bombs on me and never realy get close enough to do the trick, I have a couple screan shots with bomb and rocket craters all around me but none realy close.

 I too have hit Panzers repeatdely at close range with no effect, hecl I pluged one 4 times in the front and did no damage I was very close the sight was at the freaking 8 mark, I had this happen to ostys as well 2 ,3 even 4 hits with no damage.

  All in all I would sum it up by saying this, that dam track damage model is just stupid, tanks dont list like torpedoed ships for christs sake, woops wrong rampage:)

  The Tiger seams to take damage prety well it is extreamly hard to kill from the air as it should be, the Gun on it is a unpredictable in it's effect as the Panzer's gun and generaly more effective, which is in keeping with the rest of AH's GV gun effect's kind not what I would expect.

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« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2003, 06:02:36 PM »
OK, gotta add my 2 cents

AK Map V30, few nights ago..up a tiger to defend 30, drive about 500 yds from vh go over hill and a couple of panzers are at the bottom of the hill about 500 to 600 yds away.
Forgot to check loadout before I spawned and notice I have 60 rounds HE and 29 rounds AP (not sure ratio right, but had primarily more HE than AP)   Now I'm an ok shot but first couple of hits with AP on the panzers didnt do anything, so I switched to HE.   I got about 4-5 kills on Panzers with the HE, and not direct hits either but right next to them.  

In the meantime these panzers are firing at me missing some and hitting some, and several planes dropping bombs on me, firing on me and hitting me.  La7, 109, P38, Typhoon.   I had so many craters around me that I couldnt see very well and had like a smoke effect on my view.   They did eventually disable my tracks so I was stuck. (this is also when the tiger starts osillating so bad I cant shoot)    And still I was getting pounded.   I manage to get a few aircraft kills from the pintle gun.  (Maybe they just augered) Then Knights captured 30.     So now here I am stuck 500 yards from an enemy field, no tracks.   (some how I got the osillating to stop, but I don't remember how)  I hear a tank coming, panzer, I wait till he clears the rocks and I kill him with one HE shot in the side.    I send out a distress call to my squadmates and its answered by TheFatz, he brings me vehicle supplies at great peril because there are still enemy planes in the area and now the enemy is spawning vehicles.   I now have about 8 kills in the tiger, but I want to be fixed because I'm in the perfect position to attach and recapture 30.   (and I really didnt want to lose 50 or 60 perkies if I could help it)

TheFatz resupplies me, (WTG Fatz, my hero) repaired I turn around and go back up the hill.   As I clear the top of the hill I see 3 vehicles, an Osty, M16, and a panzer.  Some one has already destroyed the vehicle hanger.   I quickly dispatch the enemy with a few rounds of HE.  
As I move towards the vehicle hanger I see some fellow rooks (Spicer) approaching from the opposite direction.    We take up position to cover the area and wait for the M3 to recapture.
Shortly after that a knight C47 comes up and drops vehicle supplies for us, (how nice for us, he must not have heard that all his buddies were already blown up)

We know that the vehicle hanger could pop up at any moment so I train my main gun on the hanger.   Unfortunately just as the M3 showed up a panzer spawned and I was at the pintle gun and not the main gun.  I was able to fire one AP round point blank before he hit me and disabled my turret.   Ah, but I have vehicle supplies thanks to the Knight C47,  I click load supplies, repairs the turret but now I can't see out of the site.  I change positions and back to the main gun but now the turret is dead again. ( no hits heard)  I do this about 4 times quickly and never get the main gun back.  Two more hits and I'm dead, back to the tower.


I think in one sortie I found almost every unexplainable issue with the Tiger...
Seemingly Unkillable
Osillating with track damage
Main Gun site weirdness
Easy kill on frontal armor

Still it was fun,  but I'm not real crazy about taking a Tiger out for a spin.