German guided bomb as ship-killer

[Rasker]

I'd like to see the "Fritz-X" and/or the other model of wire/radio guided bombs modeled as a loadout for ship-killing purposes (either perked load or from perked D0-217).  These weapons had quite an impact on the Mediterranean in 1943, sinking the Roma, putting the Warspite out of action for the rest of the war, and forcing the Allies to strengthen and extend their air umbrellas.  I'd love the idea of watching the flare of my bomb merge with the outline of a carrier 10,000 yards away.  If the naval flak is so overmodeled, it's the least you can do for us maritime buff pilots

[Naso]

Yeah!!

A manned CV it's almost impossible to kill without the kamikaze tactic.

And we dont want to push the people to use it.... dont we??

[Sakai]

Originally posted by Rasker
I'd like to see the "Fritz-X" and/or the other model of wire/radio guided bombs modeled as a loadout for ship-killing purposes (either perked load or from perked D0-217).  These weapons had quite an impact on the Mediterranean in 1943, sinking the Roma, putting the Warspite out of action for the rest of the war, and forcing the Allies to strengthen and extend their air umbrellas.  I'd love the idea of watching the flare of my bomb merge with the outline of a carrier 10,000 yards away.  If the naval flak is so overmodeled, it's the least you can do for us maritime buff pilots

Who says the Naval flak is overmodeld?  The US proximity fuse was devastating and with usually only a single traget to train on, the target should be destroyed.

Sakai

[frank3]

well, it's damn hard to destroy the CV anyhow...

[KG45]

i guess the missile will show up when the Do217 to launch it does.

[hazed-]

he-177 carried the fritz-x and as argued a hundred times before is a far better LW bomber for AH than the poorly defended do217.

[Sakai]

Originally posted by KG45
i guess the missile will show up when the Do217 to launch it does.

Two great choices for modeling, I say but youd have to limit somehow:  guided bombs certainly did not account for much shipping in WWII.  Glide bombs a bit more, but really, most shipping killed by AC was done in with dumb bombs or aerial launched torpedos.  What we REALLY need is a torpedo speed that is sufficient to hit moving ships.  

Sakai

[Dr Zhivago]

World War II Glide Bombs

[whgates3]

Interstate TDR-1 attack drone would be cool too, so would AZON bomb & ASM-N-2 BAT Glide Bomb...any other WWII guided nonsuicidal weapons that were in combat?

[maxtor]

Originally posted by Sakai
Who says the Naval flak is overmodeld?  The US proximity fuse was devastating and with usually only a single traget to train on, the target should be destroyed.

Sakai

How did a proximity fuse know when to blow up in WWII?  Magnetic?

[emodin]

Proximity AAA fuses used radar emitted from the shell to determine when to blow up. There was a good program on PBS about it a while ago.

[whgates3]

proximity fused flak was so topsecret that they were only allowed to be used@sea - until the V1s started flying. so naval flak might not be too accurate, but land based flak sould be less accurate than naval flak...it doesnt seem that it is...

[Ecliptik]

A manned CV it's almost impossible to kill without the kamikaze tactic.

Actually it's not so hard if you actually perform a coordinated attack with divebombers (several attacking at once to dilute AAA fire), and actually do it properly, which means at least ATTEMPTING to pull out of your dive.

A flight of Stukas will make quick work of a CV group.

[whgates3]

heres a .mil site w/ info about proximity fuse history, including proximity fused HVARs

[Naso]

Originally posted by Ecliptik
Actually it's not so hard if you actually perform a coordinated attack with divebombers (several attacking at once to dilute AAA fire), and actually do it properly, which means at least ATTEMPTING to pull out of your dive.

A flight of Stukas will make quick work of a CV group.

I expressed wrong.

I mean MANNED CV FLACK.

The auto flack can let you survive 50-60% of times after a dive.

But with 1 PPL in the 5 inch gun, it's a 100% dead, even after the dive.

Even a group cannot survive, some time ago me and my squadmates attacked a manned CV in 4 Stuka, only one of us were capable to drop, and died before the bomb hit the ship.

Maybe we suck, but I bet that a p38s suicide attack could have sunk the CV.

It's time to use the lemmings tactic?