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Offline Sabre

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Set up for 17 Jan 03
« on: January 16, 2003, 11:01:18 AM »
Battle of Britain

Six lives per hour, Sat/Tues/Thur night

This popular set up returns on 17 Jan, but with a new twist.  During the three-hour period between 9:00 PM EST and Midnight EST on Saturday night, Tuesday night, and Thursday night, a life-limit will be in effect. SIX LIVES PER HOUR will be allowed for each player.  During these same periods, I will open the arena event logs, which will allow me to track bombs on target and a/c losses.  Victory each scored night will be determined each session as follows:

a) RAF losses lower than LW, LW drops fewer bombs on target than RAF = RAF win

b) RAF losses lower than LW, LW drops more bombs than RAF = draw

c) RAF losses higher than LW, LW drops fewer bombs than RAF = draw

d) RAF losses higher than LW, LW drops more bombs on target than RAF = LW win

Whichever side wins the most nights where score is tracked wins the Battle of Britain.  You’ll notice that a/c losses count as heavily as bombs on target.  That is because the Battle of Britain was as much about winning the war of attrition as it was about pummeling Great Britain.

Plane set -

Great Britain: Spit-I, Hurri-I, Boston-III, C-47 (rear airfields), M-16, M-3, M-8

Germany: Bf109E, Me110C-4, Ju-87, Ju-88, C-47 (rear airfields), M-16, M-3, M-8

Notes: TG’s will be moved out of the channel and player command locked out.  Ack and hanger rebuild times will be fairly short (15 min for hangers, 30 for ack), town building downtimes medium in duration (probably 1 hour), and field supplies/strat-targets/radar fairly long (90 – 120 minutes).  Take special note of the long radar down times, please.  Ack lethality will be 0.7, radar range (bar/dot) will be 35mi/25mi, and radar minimum altitude will be 500 feet.  You will note that C-47’s are available from rear-areas only; they’re primarily meant to allow re-supply of damaged bases/facilities.  This should make base capture more difficult, but not impossible (Sea Lion, anyone?).

I hope everyone will take this in the spirit it was intended, as an experiment and a challenge.  I chose the nights I did because of heavy squad participation on those nights.  Good luck, and good hunting!

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« Last Edit: January 16, 2003, 01:29:30 PM by Sabre »
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« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2003, 11:21:14 AM »
The bomb drop scoring should be very interesting.  As I see it the Allies should have much harder time bringing down a JU-88 with the slower (relative to the bombers speed) Spitfire and Hurricane than the Axis will have bringing down a Boston with the speedy (again relative to the bombers speed) Me110.

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Re: Set up for 17 Jan 03
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2003, 11:21:58 AM »
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Battle of Britain
a) RAF losses lower than LW, LW drops fewer bombs on target than RAF = RAF win

b) RAF losses higher than LW, LW drops more bombs on target than RAF = draw

c) RAF losses higher than LW, LW drops more bombs on target than RAF = LW win

(Oldman looks nervously around room, rises shakily to his feet)

...um...what about...you know....what really happened, where the RAF had losses lower that the LW, but the LW dropped more bombs on target than the RAF?  

(sits down, looks intently at desktop)

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« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2003, 11:32:42 AM »
I hope this will continue, great idea for the CT.
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« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2003, 12:33:56 PM »
whoo hooo fire up the bombers time to kill some spits and hurris

  sounds good  to me
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Re: Re: Set up for 17 Jan 03
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2003, 01:27:56 PM »
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(Oldman looks nervously around room, rises shakily to his feet)

...um...what about...you know....what really happened, where the RAF had losses lower that the LW, but the LW dropped more bombs on target than the RAF?  

(sits down, looks intently at desktop)

- oldman


Dooh! Edited my goof up...try it now.

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« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2003, 01:49:22 PM »
HFmudd you need to do some testing the ju88 is never faster then a spit of huri at any alt and the 110 isnt much faster then a 109.(5mph)

The boston is 40 mph faster then the ju88.

The 110 is only 15 mph faster then the boston.

The hurri is 30 mph faster then the ju88

The spit is 55 mph faster then a ju88

The boston is clearly the uber plane in the set up :)
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« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2003, 02:24:19 PM »
it is damn hard to catch a running ju88 with a spitfire.

THANKS so much you guys for this original and interesting idea!  I cant wait.  

One of my biggest pet peeves is upping from vulched bases.  I do it cause I am a fool, and this will keep me from even being tempted! This should really really make  for an interesting night.  Say, can you gun after your six are gone?  And... if six turns out to be excessive, can we cut it back to 4 on thursday?
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« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2003, 02:42:38 PM »
sounds like a neat idea

ty for giving it a go

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Re: Set up for 17 Jan 03
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2003, 03:24:06 PM »
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Originally posted by Sabre
Battle of Britain

Six lives per hour, Sat/Tues/Thur night

I hope everyone will take this in the spirit it was intended, as an experiment and a challenge.  I chose the nights I did because of heavy squad participation on those nights.  Good luck, and good hunting!

Sabre
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Woot!

Gonna be there

Sakai

Hope we don't have the 40 Allied 6 axis thing going again tho.
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« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2003, 03:47:23 PM »
Wotan, I stand corrected!  The Boston is not the dog that I thought it was.
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« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2003, 05:07:08 PM »
I predict a draw.

Either side has to win both K/D AND Bomb droppage to win the Battle.  2 out of the 4 possibilities result in a draw.

On the otherhand, the Brits are likely to have greater numbers.  They should have little trouble delivering a lot of bombs, and with greater numbers may have a decent K/D.

On that thought, how about slating the numbers to reflect any imballance?  
Say side A has 8 players, and side B has 10.  If side A ends up with a KD of over 0.8, they win the K/D aspect.  (Same math applies to bombs hit.)  Just jot down the numbers per side every 30 or 60 minutes, add em all up at the end of the 3 days and you have a ratio.

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« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2003, 06:53:38 PM »
It doesn't say k/d, it says a/c losses.  Different things, no?

Which begs the question: does a successful bail count as a death?

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« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2003, 11:13:40 PM »
Sabre,

What do you think?

Here how I would suggest scoring the war: ( a twist to Sabre's)

LW aircraft (engines) lost . . . . . . German objects lost
---------------------------- X --------------------------
RAF aircraft (engines) lost . . . . . . British objects lost



This way there could not (likely) be a draw. There would be a fraction to represent aircraft loss, and another to represent objects lost.
If one side had an aircraft K/D of 2.0, but lost 3X as many objects, they would lose to war.

Both elements would be just as critical to winning the war!

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« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2003, 11:37:23 AM »
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On that thought, how about slating the numbers to reflect any imballance?

And here I feel a chill.  People have been pretty good about trying to even out the sides when they log on.  Will treating this as a "who won the war?" event create a massive and functionally-permanent imbalance?  I plan to continue to pick the weak side whenever I log on....but I wonder if the others still will?

Guess we're gonna find out.

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