Do you mean JG14 from the old days with Mo, Otto (Kommandant), saci, Jagr, etc, etc? We started with SWOTL stories..then found Hi-Tech starting an in-line flight sim Warbirds! He loved our SWOTL stories (Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe..on floppies) and asked us to join the Beta for Warbirds! We evolved for years till I had a stoke (complete mem loss) and just disappeared! No one knew what happened to me! It took 4 years of mem recovery but but then Jg14 Was just a ghost! Is it still going in some or manner or is the JG14 moniker just a coincidence..as opposed to the original? Danke Horrido! Otto Jg14