Gitmo bay

[davidpt40]

Well, I saw my old friend, Bill, at college the other day.  1 year ago, he was called up to active duty (navy reserve).  He was stationed near camp x-ray in Gitmo bay.  We were talking a bit, catching up on stuff, and I asked him about what was going on down there.  He said his job was master of arms , some type of security detail.  Then he went on to tell me about how some of the higher ranking enlisted navy personel are abusing the lower ranking guys.  Bill told me about one incident where an E2 or E3 forgot to sign some sheet in the barracks, and an E5 (or something similar) exploded on him, screaming and cussing at him in front of the other troops.  Bill said this kind of stuff is starting to become common place now.

[Hangtime]

Awww poor baby.

Yer pal woulda lasted about 45 seconds in the army I served in 30 years ago.

[Airhead]

Maybe your friend Bill should have taken that poor abused E-2 for a walk on the beach to console him and calm him down while the rest of the E-5s enjoyed themselves abusing lower ranking sailors in the barracks.

[davidpt40]

Awww poor baby.

Yer pal woulda lasted about 45 seconds in the army I served in 30 years ago.

Why is that?  Because my friend complained about some incompetent NCO who doesn't know how to treat people?  Todays troops are more educated and politically savy than ever.  No need to treat them like mindless neanderthals. That style of leadership should have been thrown out after the 'old' army lost 2 wars. Theres also no reason to berate someone over something minor, especially in a non-combat zone.  

The army you were in 30 years ago had a morale level lower than whale crap and was a source of national embarrassment.  It wasn't until the first Gulf War that a sense of pride was restored in our military.

[lord dolf vader]

in the navy as a e3 a trip behind a equop locker is about all a e5 would get hollering at me. the previous posters are right you got to get tough/mean it is nothing like the movies. well its alot like prison moves

[Russian]

Originally posted by Airhead
Maybe your friend Bill should have taken that poor abused E-2 for a walk on the beach to console him and calm him down while the rest of the E-5s enjoyed themselves abusing lower ranking sailors in the barracks.

LOL, That E2 needs to grow some balls.

[Pongo]

What a stupid thread. What provoked you to start it.

[weazel]

Were you there handsomehunk? If not then STFU.

You've been listening to too much republican propaganda.

"The army you were in 30 years ago had a morale level lower than whale crap and was a source of national embarrassment. It wasn't until the first Gulf War that a sense of pride was restored in our military."

[Creamo]

Your not even angry weasel, your just a characterless fool groping on a subject that gives you the most attention per thread your mindless search, paste, and post topics off the internet can give.

How you can dominate and spam an entire BBS General Forum Category with your insipid political pissing is beyond me. Makes the checksix bbs seem inviting.

[Hangtime]

The army you were in 30 years ago had a morale level lower than whale crap....

You; child, are a tool. No, let me expand on that... you are a clueless media tool. .

You expect the morale of the nations Army to be good when their lives are being squandered as barganing chips? Do you think the morale on Omaha Beach was good when the troops were pinned in the sand and surf? Morale has toejam to to with unit pride, loyalty and duty, boy. The 'war' in Vietnam would have been over in months if we were allowed to fight it as a WAR.

and was a source  of national embarrassment.

Item...the Army I served in was neither a national embarrasement nor imcompetent. The leaders we served.. the POLITICAL leaders we served were the freakin incompetent embarassment.

Our military has always had a very high sense of pride..  it was and IS the best military on the face of this planet, man for man. The sense of pride in itself as a nation may have been restored by the Gulf conflict, the pride in the military has never been in doubt. Confidence in our political leaders is always in doubt.

Todays troops are more educated and politically savy than ever.

What? Surely you need to recheck you airsupply. An 18 year old infantry man in 1969 ain't one bit smarter than an 18 year old infantryman in 2003. Both can reason, evaluate a press release and compare it with conditions present in front of his nose. Speaking of which, thats you lower intestine if front of yours, re-read the first sentance in this paragraph.

No need to treat them like mindless neanderthals. That style of leadership should have been thrown out after the 'old' army lost 2 wars. Theres also no reason to berate someone over something minor, especially in a non-combat zone.

Ah the crux.. listen up, puppy. The military is not a debating society, our military has not lost a war yet, and berating a pinhead E-2 that does not correctly comply with proccedure is the LEAST the E-5 could have done and kept HIS stripes.

Tell yer pal to get the hell outta my military. I don't want rutabagas guarding my nation.

[weazel]

Are you still mad at me?

Maybe you should go jerk-off over your collection of 15 y.o. camel toe pictures if I'm bothering you.

Does it bother you that much that people find the topics I post on interesting...or do you just need a little attention?

[Creamo]

See?

[Hangtime]

Actually, I happen to prize Creamo's collection of camel-toe art.

Quality camel-toe is always in short supply.

[milnko]

damn double post

[milnko]

Originally posted by davidpt40
Theres also no reason to berate someone over something minor, especially in a non-combat zone.

roadkill! that is especially the time when ya berate someone for screwing up.

It's way too late to try and train someone properly in a combat zone, that individual is gonna get killed or worse yet cause others to die by his un-disciplined inability to follow EXACT orders.

It's all about "attention to detail" it's the "minor" things that get people killed, most deaths in combat aren't caused by gigantic screw-ups, but by itty bitty little details that the deadman didn't focus on.

Sounds to me like the Petty Officer 2nd Class in your story is concerned and cares about the men he commands, and wants them to survive in one piece if thrown in to the meat grinder called combat.