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Offline Wilfrid

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« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2003, 12:59:13 PM »
Excession and Consider Phlebas are my 2 favorite Banks books; I couldn't really get into Use Of Weapons as easily. I probably liked Excession more, cos of the ship names, but I've never read and reread a book like C P before - specifically the section based on the pirate ship.

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« Reply #16 on: January 20, 2003, 01:08:54 PM »
David Gerrold's 4 books of planned 7 about an alien biology planting itself on earth. The first wave of microbes kills about 99% of the worlds population, then the creatures start appearing.
Interesting read.

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« Reply #17 on: January 20, 2003, 01:16:48 PM »
I disagree as well.  Sci-Fi makes great reading... but not so great watching.

Clarke is king, IMHO.  Even 3001 was good.

Dune series was good (cough).

1984 is sci-fi?  I dunno, but stay tuned for the minute of hate.

Nothing on TV short of Star Wars holds any of my attention... Star Trek is way to corney and all the shows they run on the Sci-Fi channel are embarressing.

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« Reply #18 on: January 20, 2003, 01:21:50 PM »
hyperion was cool... actually the latest Foundation books are good (not Clarke though)

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« Reply #19 on: January 20, 2003, 01:47:31 PM »
Jeff Noon writes books set in manchester loosely based around the same near future time period. His style is loose with language and very inventive, thick with thought provoking neologisms and nomenclature.

Manchester is inhabited by people, ghosts (smoke), dogs, and combinations of all of those (the Fecundity Incident). People put 'feathers' in their mouth for shared dreamspace experience (vurt). Coloured feathers are all different, Pink for Porno, Blue for friendly, Red for Aggressive, Black for snuff and watch out for curious yellow, the meta feather. Feathers are like drugs and a similar subculture arises around them. Their origin is a mystery and they turn grey and spent after you have used them only once.

Game Cat is the pirate DJ who advises on feathers and tells the game kittens what's what. He knows the secrets of Curious Yellow and Miss Alice (yes, that alice) Hobart. The powers that be want him silenced.

Vurt, Pollen and Nymphomation are his most accessible novels to date. Automated Alice is a masterpiece, but unless you like the prose of The Late Great Rev. Dodson (Lewis Carroll) you won't like it much - also set in Manchester.

Needle in the groove is a fabulous book written as song lyrics. Story seems to be autobiographical, and revolves around a new liquid recording medium, which gives a whole new meaning to Mixing Down a Track. The story becomes interesting when they start injecting their mixes.

Of them all Pollen is my runaway favourite, the Tale of Boda the X-Cabber who falls in love with a Dog-Boy maverick taxi driver. Vurt is good too (I want nano-sham! and Vaz) and is his first - the tale of scribble who has lost his sister to the vurt and in exchange is now the de facto guardian of some strange vurt beast. A story full of robo-weilers, dog gangs, fractal bullets and inpho rays.

Nymphomation is all about what happens when numbers have sex. If you think that sounds bizarre you should read the book. Maths meets Sex meets Gambling in Manchester. You discover the origin of Vurt and Alice and why Dominos are more important than you think. Also showcases the invention of Vaz, by Jaz.

These are the most original SF to be published in the UK by a homegrown writer for some time. I can't recommend them highly enough.

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« Reply #20 on: January 20, 2003, 01:54:50 PM »
Dowding/AKIron - would you believe - I had dinner with Azimov's niece in San Francisco a few years ago. :)

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« Reply #21 on: January 20, 2003, 01:59:05 PM »
Cool Beet1e, Asimov is definitely one of my favorites, Foundation series included. Was truly a sad day when he died.
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« Reply #22 on: January 20, 2003, 02:08:19 PM »
If you like sci-fi at all, you should read Poul Anderson. I have read everything he authored from short storys to novels from his early fantasy to his much more prolific sci-fi.

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« Reply #23 on: January 20, 2003, 04:02:04 PM »
I'm reading "The Hitchhiker's Guide To the Galaxy", the complete edition. It's a great book, but I don't know if it can be classified as science-fiction, it's too funny and deep for that.

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« Reply #24 on: January 20, 2003, 04:05:17 PM »
I'm telling ya that if you liked Foundation, the follow up trilogy blows it away...(by permission of the Asimov estate)
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« Reply #25 on: January 21, 2003, 02:21:41 AM »
try some vonnegut

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« Reply #26 on: January 21, 2003, 02:23:35 AM »
Dowding you read Neal Stephenson's books?

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« Reply #27 on: January 21, 2003, 02:40:49 AM »
All of the above (must re-read Dan Simmons). Plus Ender's Game, Starship Troopers (I lost all interest in the movie when they left out the powered armour).

I remember a compilation by Asimov of short stories that he used to read as an aspiring writer, intermingled with autobiographical notes, and then his first ones, continuing the autobiography. Was very nice to read

And Harry Harrison's "Bill, the Galactic Hero" is hilarious. I remember reading those in the public library, I started laughing pretty loud, to the amusement of the rest of readers there.

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« Reply #28 on: January 21, 2003, 02:55:20 AM »
Beetle - is she fit? ;)

No, Funked - haven't read any of his stuff.

I've tended to avoid sci-fi for a while now. I read Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy recently and thought it was excellent - except for the daft 70s sci-fi language.

I tend to pick up an author and read everything by him, or at least as much as I can cheaply get my hands on. I've been going through the greats in contemporary fiction - Orwell and Hemingway. Last year, I bought all the books written by Raymond Chandler and read them. The descriptions of life in 40s/50s LA were excellent.

I find Sci-fi authors often take an idea, and absolutely milk it to death. Arthur C Clarke did this with both 2001 and Rama (3001 was a poor shadow of 2001 - it was as stale as last week's bread). Herbert did it with Dune. Asimov did it with the foundation series - his best book, IMO, was a one-off - Nightfall (I think that's what it was called). About a planet with 3 suns which has a perpetual day, that suffers an eclipse and the effect on the civilisation.

Takeda - I remember reading some of Harry Harrison's stuff as a kid. It was very funny. :)
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« Reply #29 on: January 21, 2003, 03:04:59 AM »
"No, Funked - haven't read any of his stuff. "

Well get with the program!!!
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