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Offline Erlkonig

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« on: January 20, 2003, 09:31:21 PM »
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« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2003, 09:38:35 PM »
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Mr President, can you express in your own words how you felt about the SP episode where Cartman's bellybutton had a 50' sattelite dish pop out of it?
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« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2003, 09:40:39 PM »
LOL, Elkonig.
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« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2003, 10:06:14 PM »
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« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2003, 10:24:20 PM »
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Offline Holden McGroin

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« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2003, 01:55:44 AM »
From the transcript of the news conference:

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Q: Mr. Secretary, Congressmen Rangel and Conyers are introducing a bill to institute the draft. And one of their key ideas is to focus attention on what they see as an inequity of casualties in the military. They think that the blacks and other minorities are disproportionately killed, for instance. This was also the argument during Vietnam. I wondered your thoughts on that and also General Myers'.

Rumsfeld: We're not going to reimplement a draft. There is no need for it at all. The disadvantages of using compulsion to bring into the armed forces the men and women needed are notable.

The disadvantages to the individuals so brought in are notable. If you think back to when we had the draft, people were brought in; they were paid some fraction of what they could make in the civilian manpower market because they were without choices. Big categories were exempted -- people that were in college, people that were teaching, people that were married. It varied from time to time, but there were all kinds of exemptions. And what was left was sucked into the intake, trained for a period of months, and then went out, adding no value, no advantage, really, to the United States armed services over any sustained period of time, because the churning that took place, it took enormous amount of effort in terms of training, and then they were gone.

Now, are we able today to maintain a force that is at the appropriate size with the appropriate skills by paying people roughly what they'd be making in the civilian manpower market? Yes. Are we doing it today? Yes. Are we meeting the recruiting goals? Yes. Have we been able to attract and retain people in the Guard and the Reserves who can augment that force when necessary, such as today? Yes, we have.

Now, the reason, the desire for doing that, the way I read some columns or articles -- and I didn't heed -- read any specific statements by either of the people you're talking about, so I'm not necessarily talking about them -- was not so much the point you raised -- and I'll let General Myers comment on that if he's in a position to do so -- but rather it's the old "no more Vietnam" argument. In other words, it's the argument that unless we have a draft -- correction -- if we have a draft, it will mean that so many people in the country will be involved that it's unlikely the country would engage in a conflict that was not a popular conflict. That kind of was the base that I saw in the press articles.

Now, I don't find that a compelling argument to spend all the money you would spend in churning people through and all the disadvantages that would accrue to bringing people into the service who didn't want to serve in the service. And it seems to me that the way we're currently organized and operating is vastly preferable. We have people serving today -- God bless 'em -- because they volunteered. They want to be doing what it is their doing. And we're just very lucky as a country that there are so many wonderfully talented young men and young women who each year step up and say, "I'm ready; let me do that."


I read this as a comment suggesting the preference of the modern all-volenteer force vs. the problems we had with the Vietnam era draft.

Weasel, I just thought you would like the full text of the question and answer:  not just the quote you seized upon so you could attack yet another who has the political influence you lack.

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Offline GRUNHERZ

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« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2003, 07:04:50 AM »
Holden It doesnt matter, weazel will go on doing his thing no matter what rumsfled actually said....  Waezel just hates...
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« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2003, 07:09:16 AM »
I really think that if Weasel could attend to the root cause of his feelings of inadequacy, he could improve his outlook upon the world.  The treatment I suggest could help move in that direction.
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Offline Eagler

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« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2003, 07:36:15 AM »
yep, if ole slick could just have had a third term ...

or his mini me goron won in 2000 ...

there never would have been a 9/11 and the stock market would be over 15,000 :rolleyes:


evil evil bush and his buddies out for only their own pocket books (as if they now don't have enough $$$ to send from now til the end of time, they need to invade Iraq) :rolleyes:
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Offline davidpt40

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« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2003, 07:42:59 AM »
I would rather have a fighter-pilot for a President than some draft dodging womanizer any day.
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« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2003, 07:48:34 AM »
Eagler, by that logic Bill Gates shouldda stepped down eons ago.

He hasn't. There's something about money, power and influence that sort of appeals to certain types of people.

Ever heard of greed? Yes, very unchristian. Very existent too - also in Christians (they're humans - sort of).

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Offline Eagler

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« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2003, 08:18:41 AM »
ya, I've heard of greed

I've also heard of stupidity

to think this admin has greed as the motiviation to kill Saddam and his stooges is just plain stupid left media spew
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« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2003, 08:30:36 AM »
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
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You started out with an excellent response to an errant opinion, and the followed it up with a personal attack that was without merit, thereby undoing the good that you had done.

Oh well. :rolleyes:
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« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2003, 09:19:44 AM »
hmmmm thinking


1 - leave Saddam there a couple more years, let em develop more nasty stuff, and even let em MAYBE use it against the oppposition in his country(5000 kurds died)...like he already did with a nasty gas.

2 - let em make up more stories of boggie men tryin to kill em....so that he can turn around and terrorize more of HIS population....by hanging women in front mall entrances

3 - let em invade or make war with his neighbors....he's good at that. Oh ya...Saddam does not support terrorism....SADDAM did NOT blow up the oil refinaries that created a nice black cloud(very natural wouldn't ya say)

some people forget.....SADDAM HUSSIEN is a dangerous MTF.....he will NOT....I repeat....he WILL NOT back down unless you make em....WITH FORCE:mad:

Its not by sayin "give peace a chance" that KUWAIT was liberated you pansie bellybutton pacificst....:rolleyes:
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« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2003, 12:54:57 PM »
You've obviously mistaken me for one of your bath-house buddies, I'm hetero and not interested in a homosexual relationship with you.

Good luck in your search for Gaylord W. Largecock, I hope you find him soon.
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