What went wrong?

[Skorpyon]

 

 I do not know how to make it right.. I just hope I can find a way..

Seems ya just did.    
Though I viewed available films and didn't agree with a lot of the assertions being made (on both sides actually), I backspaced out my two cents worth that I had typed.. more like half a page worth on the childishness of the whole argument, regardless of which side of the "line in the sand" you were on.  Let this situation be a reminder to us all.  Though we often bash those we see as impulsive, or rude, or tempermental, or "dweebish", as Quake style players/personalities, we all can become victims of frustration, misperception, miscommunication, and worst of all, of our own high expectations.  Obviously this won't be the last controversy to occur, but let us all remember that even those we believe to be above reproach, those we believe to be consistent and steadfast, regardless of their "country" affiliation, are all human.  But this realization only works if it begins by pointing the finger at ourselves first.  Through humility (not humiliation) we find dignity again.  Dignity has been found again... let us ALL hold on to it as tightly as is humanly possible.
Reverend Skorp signing off...  

p.s.  Besides, all those damn lengthy threads take forever to download on my measly 28.8 connection!
 

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Skorpyon
~900th Bloody Jaguars~
"Feel the Sting......"

[Jigster]

Ya know, if there would of been a "good fight" message preceding the crap slinging we could probably take this all in a better prespective.

But, ego rears it's ugly head, and eventually character shines through like a beacon.

I liked the fight. I suggest we all just squelch ch 1 for the next one.

- Jig
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Inverted plane = cool head rush!

[Jigster]

RAM--------------> <Getting ready to be flamed>

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Fwooosh!

Happy now?  

- Jig
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"Hey! I needed that wing!"

[Dingy]

Originally posted by Jigster:
Ya know, if there would of been a "good fight" message preceding the crap slinging we could probably take this all in a better prespective.

But, ego rears it's ugly head, and eventually character shines through like a beacon.

I liked the fight. I suggest we all just squelch ch 1 for the next one.

- Jig

Then how are you going to be able to hear my, "That was fun! Lets do it again post?"  
I think the majority of the LW pilots are of the same mindset as myself.  Its only a select few who tainted it with the unnecessary gloating.  For that, Hristo gets my standard "WAAAAAAAAA!" reply.

-Ding

[Kieren]

 

But I cant forget what he said about me.

Be careful there. Hangtime doesn't own a monopoly on blowing up. We have quite a few pilots that would do well to forgive here, and remember it wasn't all that long ago they themselves went off in public.  

"Forgive, lest ye not be forgiven"

[Jigster]

Hey butter boy, you best start flyin again or I got a cold cod strapped to my club for ya  

I still haven't topped that night you, me and Draks winged.
 
sigh

- Jig
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"How did that steak get there you say?! THEY threw it!"  

[arhurb]

After all this said, I would love to be in the next Rumble. After all this said, and tho I'd like to fly A5, I would fly Ally side. So, Hang, If my scarce flying abilities can be of any help, count me in.

<S>

Pepino.

[LLv34_Camouflage]

I'm glad things are starting to work out.

To make a short story even shorter, here's my suggestion for the next Rumble rules: http://www.hut.fi/u/vpitkane/LLv34/34vs5/duelrules.htm

Those are the rules that we used in our LLv34 vs 5 GIAP duel some time ago.  Here's the first part of the "engagement plan", in all its simpleness:

Engagement plan:

-Both teams form up and grab 15k over their base
-Icons must be turned off at this point
-All pilots turn film on at this point, off when frame over
-both teams call "ready at 15k"
-teams head for eachother at 15k until at dot range
  -> teams can not begin maneuvering / climbing before dot range
-one plane per pilot per frame - replaning forbidden


I tried to write the rules so that there is no room for "interpreting".  With a little tweaking maybe this could be used as a base for the ROE?

Camo

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Camouflage
XO, Lentolaivue 34
 www.muodos.fi/LLv34

Brewster into AH!

"The really good pilots use their superior judgement to keep them out of situations
where they might be required to demonstrate their superior skill."

[maik]

<S> Hangtime,

maik

[RAM]

 

Originally posted by Kieren:

"Forgive, lest ye not be forgiven"

Kieren, when I blow up because a B17 kills me or a 1.2K kill happens on me I admit I really explode in flames...

But there are VERY FEW people I go against them in those moments, Creamo is one of them ,and there have been some others too.

But none of them tried to defend me while I was flaming. I tried to do it with Hang, to save his face when he was in his worst moment.

And see what I got in response.

Well enough of this, as I said, Im out of this matter.



[This message has been edited by RAM (edited 07-25-2000).]

[LLv34_Camouflage]

Sorry, I posted my rules-suggestion to the wrong topic.

Hangtime, <S!>.  It takes balls to do what you did.  All of the things.  

And RAM, I'm sure I will see you in the next rumble.  

Best regards,

Camo