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Offline 2Slow

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« on: January 21, 2003, 03:59:52 PM »
I was sent this by a friend. Pretty eye opening...

The Democratic National Committee is currently conducting an internet poll
of Americans to determine the electability of Hillary Clinton
for the Presidency of the United States in 2004. If you would like to show
your support for Hillary and encourage her to run for President of the
United States in 2004, please enter the link below into your browser.


http://www.acsu.buffalo.edu/~kinho/youare.swf
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Offline 10Bears

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« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2003, 05:44:20 PM »
You might hate her, but she's one of the smartest people in the Senate.

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« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2003, 07:58:08 PM »
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"You might hate her, but she's one of the smartest people in the Senate."

How do you know??   Did she get an "A+" on the Senate "Entrance Exam"??

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Offline whgates3

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« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2003, 08:09:21 PM »
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Originally posted by 10Bears
You might hate her, but she's one of the smartest people in the Senate.


probably high on the disingenous & corrupt list too

Offline midnight Target

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« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2003, 08:54:51 PM »
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Originally posted by Cabby44
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"You might hate her, but she's one of the smartest people in the Senate."

How do you know??   Did she get an "A+" on the Senate "Entrance Exam"??

C.


As opposed to the affirmative action deferment most Repubs got?

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« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2003, 10:00:33 PM »
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You might hate her, but she's one of the smartest people in the Senate. - 10 Bears


Your source, please? Just curious, not pressing any point here...
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« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2003, 10:04:43 PM »
She's intelligent, no doubt about it.  That does not equate to wisdom.  If you like Stephen King's novels you need to read some of Hillary's thoughts on government regulation of parental rights.  

In 1979 she made the following statement:  "Decisions about motherhood and abortion, schooling, cosmetic surgery, treatment of venereal disease, or employment, and others where the decision or lack of one will significantly affect the child's future should not be made unilaterally by parents."

Or this gem:  "Now we can talk about reality, and I would like to talk about reality sometime, authentic reality, inauthentic reality, and what we have to do to accept what we see."  

How about this argument for the right of children to sue or even divorce their parents:  "I want to be a voice for America's children...advocating...the immediate abolition of the legal status of minority and the reversal of the legal presumption of the incompetence of minors in favor of a presumption of competence;  the extention to children of all procedural rights guaranteed to adults;  the rejection of the legal presumption of the identity of interests between parents and their children, and permission for competent children to assert those independent interests in the courts."  

"Ironically, reaction against state intervention in cases of nonphysical abuse is consistent with consensus romanticism about the family."

Hungry for more?  This should satisfy your craving: "Certain myths...serve only to inhibit the development of a realistic family policy in this country:  the myth of the housewife whose life centers only on her home and...the myth, or perhaps more accurately, the prejudice, that each family should be self-sufficient."

"We need to forge a new consensus about our political direction...that doesn't jerk us to the right, jerk us to the left, prey on our emotions, engender paranoia and insecurity...but instead moves us forward together."  Can you spell "VAST RIGHT-WING CONSPIRACY?"

More on government benevolence in the arena of child protection:  "A common complaint about the exercise of discretion in neglect cases is that alien values, usually middle-class, are used to judge a family's child rearing practices.  One way to answer that complaint is to entrust the discretion necessary for evaluating a child's needs to persons representing the milieu in which a family lives."  In other words, middle-class values in child rearing are highly suspect.  Comforting isn't it.

"Words have a funny way of trapping our minds on the way to our tongues."  No kiddin'?  They also have a way of revealing our minds to others.

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« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2003, 10:39:58 PM »
I listened to the women speak before congress when the universal health care issue was up. She spoke extempraneously for several hours and not once did I hear an ...uh, a mispronounciation, a faltering in her delivery of her thought, any flaw in her, not one. Was one of the most amazing performances I have seen. She is in deed intelligent .

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« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2003, 10:41:35 PM »
Perhaps abused children should have some legal rights for starters.

Offline 2Slow

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« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2003, 10:42:30 PM »
I posted this as a joke, no I see the truth of it.
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« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2003, 10:50:20 PM »
Hillary once visited my school in south Arkansas.  She and I talked at some length on early childhood education.  She is quite intelligent.  Yet, I firmly believe her notions on government intervention in the area of parental authority are blatantly intrusive, and more than a little scarey.  The statements I presented above also reveal that she has an unhealthy disdain of middle-class values.  I could have presented much more, on other subjects, but I did not have the time.  She is a classic nanny.

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« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2003, 10:54:00 PM »
I'd hit it.
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« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2003, 11:01:30 PM »
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Yet, I firmly believe her notions on government intervention in the area of parental authority are blatantly intrusive, and more than a little scarey. - Shuckins


Her health care attack plan scared the hell out of me :eek:
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« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2003, 11:07:25 PM »
Sandman, you'd hit whatever it was, if it slowed down to a walk...  I think you'd just roll them in flour and hit the wet spots :) ... doesn't matter what they look like obviously...
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« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2003, 11:51:54 PM »
to be fair, a lot of the crazy stuff she said about child welfare, she said when acting as attorney for a child's rights organization & good council will ernestly say absurd things that they do not agree with if it is in the interest of the client (you dont thing shrewd lawyer johnnie €°˘kringh actually believed "if the glove doesn not fit...")

as for who'd hit what...its almost definite hillary is either unwilling or no good w/ her mouth & downstairs - bill has been there. i'd stay away...