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Offline ebgb

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« on: January 24, 2003, 11:01:19 PM »
In game I either get Hard centering force with effects or I get
a soft to medium centering force with no effects at all.

What I want is a soft to medium centering force with effects.

Although my SWFF2 properties page is set to medium, the game always starts with the FF2 very stiff, but with effects.  If I alt-tab
out to the panel to adjust it, on returning the stick is soft-medium
with no effects.  Doesn't matter what the properties page says
before I launch the game, the stick always has hard centering force on startup.

I did have to download MS's swpatch to get the stick to work with my Via chipset - and am flumoxed at what to do to fix this.

BTW - the stick is just lovely when the centering is set to soft-medium.  If this is all I get, I'll be quite happy - but I want my
rumbles too.

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Offline DAVENRINO

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« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2003, 01:36:50 PM »
I am guessing that you are using XP.  I had same problem on initial launch of AH.  If I ALT/Tabbed out and came back it was OK.  I finally gave up and pulled the plug on the forces.
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« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2003, 02:02:47 PM »
correct, XP.

Anyone have a workaround?
I'm investigating the function of this stick with other games / XP to
see if it's a platform issue or an AH issue.

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« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2003, 08:08:17 PM »
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Originally posted by ebgb
In game I either get Hard centering force with effects or I get
a soft to medium centering force with no effects at all.

What I want is a soft to medium centering force with effects.

Although my SWFF2 properties page is set to medium, the game always starts with the FF2 very stiff, but with effects.  If I alt-tab
out to the panel to adjust it, on returning the stick is soft-medium
with no effects.  Doesn't matter what the properties page says
before I launch the game, the stick always has hard centering force on startup.

I did have to download MS's swpatch to get the stick to work with my Via chipset - and am flumoxed at what to do to fix this.

BTW - the stick is just lovely when the centering is set to soft-medium.  If this is all I get, I'll be quite happy - but I want my
rumbles too.

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play AH with "hard-centering" (with no effects) and you will get used to it in just 1 month. I also recomend you to lift weights (20 or 50 lbs) :rolleyes:
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« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2003, 12:59:12 AM »
Just for grins, I downloaded Wb3 and the stick force is perfect.  In fact, there's a slider in Wb3 labelled 'Trim Force' that when adjusted increases or decreases the centering force.   In AH - this same slider has no effect.

I'm thinking this is a bug.

Also - in Wb3 I can Alt tab out and back in and there is no effect on the stick whatsoever.  The rumbles, centering forces remain the same.

Anyone else seeing this??
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« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2003, 08:04:16 PM »
I have the same problem with the MS SW FF2.  I just disabled the trim forces (check box) and kept the rest.  Now trim (centering) force is controlled by whatever you set in the Sidewinder control panel while effects still occur.

I don't think it's a bug- it's been this way for a long time.  I think they are just trying to say that only he-men can fly airplanes.  Personally I think it would lead to significant wrist repetitive stress injury at the high setting they use.  Especially with the long hours some people put in on this game.
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« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2003, 09:24:24 AM »
Sounds a bit like this problem on ms site
Sidewinder problem

I tried to get return to centre to low but gave up & reinstalled win98 as there doesnt seem to be a fix for it. This articules been on there knowledge base for many months. I make a point of clicking on the comments at top left & asking when the fix is coming every week :(
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« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2003, 10:43:03 PM »
Duh 715!  

Why didn't I think of that?

 Nope, no effect.  I can select either of 4 settings before launching AH and the centering force remains the same with AH's trim force disabled.

In fact - the centering force in WinXP is pooched.  MS has some
crappy XP drivers I'm thinking.

Damn, I spent near $90 for this thing.  At least I'm able to use it, but I want to use ALL of it.
« Last Edit: January 27, 2003, 10:50:29 PM by ebgb »
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« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2003, 09:00:17 AM »
I have same problem and i use win98se
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« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2003, 11:51:54 AM »
No problems here with Win ME.
I have heard of the XP problem many times though.
Good luck.
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« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2003, 09:11:55 PM »
715,  Nhmadmax

What motherboards are you running?    Via chipsets I presume?
Anyone with Intel chipsets having issues with FF2 stick?
Anyone with an Nforce having issues with SW FF2?

That may be my final solution, the Nforce2.


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« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2003, 09:51:55 PM »
not sure how do i find out what board i have the processor is a athlon 2200xp
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« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2003, 10:10:05 PM »
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715,  Nhmadmax

What motherboards are you running?    Via chipsets I presume?
Anyone with Intel chipsets having issues with FF2 stick?
Anyone with an Nforce having issues with SW FF2?

That may be my final solution, the Nforce2.


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I have an Intel 850MV motherboard.  However, I failed to mention before that I'm running Windows 98SE.  The fix I mentioned works fine for me.  Perhaps it doesn't work for Win XP.
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« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2003, 02:33:32 AM »
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 I am guessing that you are using XP. I had same problem on initial launch of AH. If I ALT/Tabbed out and came back it was OK. I finally gave up and pulled the plug on the forces.
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« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2003, 09:13:23 AM »
After installing xp on a a via motherboard sytem & the return to centre not working, trying every fix availble to mankind (ie VIA fixes).
I then installed xp on a ALi motherboard system & had exactly the same problem so I figured it was the crappy MS drivers under xp.
I have had no problems using ffb under windows98se.
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