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Offline BGBMAW

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« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2003, 07:38:58 PM »
Salute Shills!!!!!!!

i know you guys...

And milkrunning is far from what we do..


Definition of Milk run...- Attaking a targte which is

1) out of the way from the main fight

2) a targtet which will be either a-not protected at all
                                                   b- defended very lightly



When attepmting to take a base..I would never call that a Milk run..especially an Airfield.

Would You???

and im not paranoid..its a fact..which the majority of pilots realize and have voiced....

It i sjust BS when a huge red bar ups from a base where no one was...and there base is not flashing yet...and its not a mission...its a bunch of La7's.....lolololol..well kind of laffing:)

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BiGB


PS..and yes i do Know you guys..rmember the song  you guys had on the Website....DIrty Deeds Done to Sheep!!! The Ac/Dc song....I still laff my fukn bellybutton off...

Velcro Gloves..and sheep...you guys are nasty!!!!!!!

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« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2003, 08:46:03 PM »
Well if it will end these posts, I will concede and say it's worth the while to implement. However, I have never heard of anyone on my country having knowledge of noe raids other than have come from spotting them thinking they're ever so clever. My guess is you'll still lose your entire mission population as often as you do now, and will try and blame something else. If I had heard of one instance where someone had given us mission information from the other side, I would definitelly agree with you more readily.

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TheManx...no its not from the "1 time you caught us"..


I believe it does stem from the time we caught you last night, as this post follows shortly after your comments on CH1 about said title not 10 seconds after we shot you guys down. You voiced your opinion last night and posted here after us having told you exactly how you got caught. Perhaps during other missions the same thing happened and you're just starting to get a bit paranoid. Your missions aren't always clever, as I've run into many of your NOE raids over the past months. I still stand by the belief that if you plan your mission and set it up for a good chance of completion you'll win. Fire everything along the deck, and you'll lose far more often than you win.

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« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2003, 08:50:13 PM »
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Plain and simple....Your argument doesnt work...


And yours dosen't either unless you have at least a shred of evidence more than "I think" to make Hitech code this into the game.

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« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2003, 08:57:35 PM »
mmm  Manx ..yes last nigth you caught us...but it was 3 of us..with soem straglers in the bak...Sometiem swe get lucky with a 3 person or even a 2 person capture..Its  a Craps game...


But im not paranoid..the spy thing has defntly increased...You wont get the "HEy my Spy on the ohter side said  Under radr mission into base ##"...no they say.,,,,Spotted mission inbound to ##.....

you dont have to be blatant about ...

and if you want i will say OK..you guys made me do it..(no you didnt)  as a posted this many days ago..same thing....Im just trying to Lobby....(i live near State Capital)...:D

And we welcome your finding our msiions...as it would not be fun to not be able to shoot any1:)

hehehe

and You conceded..YAAAAAAAAAAAAAA i won!!!...heheh just kidding

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My guess is you'll still lose your entire mission population as often as you do now, and will try and blame something else
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I will disagree..err say HELL NO....I know we are more succesful then not when we do our missions.....so please...dont fabricate..err i guess its just an opinion..thats not correct:)

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« Reply #19 on: January 27, 2003, 09:07:43 PM »
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I will disagree..err say HELL NO....I know we are more succesful then not when we do our missions.....so please...dont fabricate..err i guess its just an opinion..thats not correct


I have no doubt you'll be just as successful in your missions. In that case, I'm not lying. I'm just saying you'll likely still lose the same number and still wonder "why".

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Im just trying to Lobby


Lobby away, it's not something I'd mind terribly if Hitech made the changes to as you suggested. Still no more convinced of the spy concept any more than I'm convinced that Jimmy Hoffa is buried under the southermost hanger at a39.

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« Reply #20 on: January 27, 2003, 09:12:24 PM »
Jimmy Hofa's in here???


Ok Manx...How am i going to cath the Spies..if any??

I can get a Knight to admit he has reported on nme movement..but what do you want..game ID or credit card number...?

It has happend and will continue to happen..Especailly as more and more "old" computers stack up..and some guys have multi units at home...

But How and what do you want for proof?

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« Reply #21 on: January 27, 2003, 11:46:32 PM »
why should I have to change cause you think there is cheating going on?

 with the numbers in the ma at night as high as they are, your chances of getting caught exponentially rise.

con-dots can be seen from a fairly good distance so being seen isn't really all that tuff.

BG you think guys are using more than one account to cheat? Than I'd have to say they need a life  :D  

 just stop inter-countryand squad(if they on different teams) txt-vox except channel 1. that way all get to see.

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« Reply #22 on: January 28, 2003, 11:30:29 AM »
I have no doubt Manx & group other night spotted low dots, recognized the NOE raid & spoiled it. Once you stated on channel one this was the case, I believed it. No reason to doubt it & a big . I agree this will happen with a crowded MA, even with no friendly dot dar when NOE.

However, there are instances where I am confident information of NOE missions was transmitted from countrymen to the opposing side. Ndisles, I had goon out in advance, 4 to 52. I ended up going to the N & E of the base, staying well outside the base-flashing circle. Jabo guys were about 1/2 way up from 4 then a large red bar started to up out of 52.

Nobody broke the NOE alt barrier to cause a BarDar, I was continuously looking at the map. One La7 came my direction, low on the deck. Unless he was flying low NOE away from all enemy direction back towards his own inner fields, he had "spy" information. He knew the precise location of the goon. No other logical explanation.

How did he get info? I don't know, no proof. But it could easily be trasmitted by multi-country squads or by personnal message 1 country to the other. The rest of the NOE jabo guys ran into group of La7s.

To say information is not shared from people on one country to the other is naive. I don't know how often it happens, but it does happen.

Under-dar should be Under-dar, meaning no friendly or enemy dar bar (which is currently the case) and NO dot dar, friendly and enemy.

I think this would enhance gameplay for many, eliminate this Possibility of a countryman sharing information and be somewhat more realistic. Under-dar should be Under-dar, friendly & foe.

There are lots of people I am sure which have flown together in same country and are now in different countries which like to have private conversations. Also, some squads have members in different countries. All though I don't agree, it is perfectly reasonable for these members to communicate in private if they desire. So I don't think eleminating communications from country to country except via channel one is a viable solution. Heck, have the crap talked on channel one I wish would be taken private.

Currently the big flashing base gives a country ample warning to up & eliminate a NOE raid without the need to have spy information. All I am suggesting is give it a chance. Maybe the circle should be expanded or contracted. This could be adjusted.

NO friendly DOT DAR when Under Dar!!!!!!!!!!!

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« Reply #23 on: January 28, 2003, 12:13:20 PM »
If you are NOE and below the radar's horizon, then you shouldn't show up on the map for anyone....enemy, friendly, squaddie or mission.  There shouldn't be any special radar to detect just your squadron or the mission and it should revert to either radio/text comm's and a good plan and formation for join-up.  Just one Puke's opinion.

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« Reply #24 on: January 28, 2003, 01:26:00 PM »
Agree with Puke, and it has nothing to do with spies.

I understand that our inflight radar is a "game play" concession to simulate ground controller information, but having the exact location of a plane, below radar, in real time, 100 miles behind enemy lines, is IMO overdone.
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« Reply #25 on: January 28, 2003, 01:38:47 PM »
heh-I'll cut and paste my response form another thread about the same topic.  

How about this workaround... if you are running/participating in a mission and if you go below radar than not even "firendlies" can see you.

Otherwise radar functions the same as now. That way we have best of both worlds-you can log on and get an accurate picture of what is happening while allowing you to run a noe mission that can only be compromised by inept pilots and not some spy:D

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« Reply #26 on: January 28, 2003, 01:45:43 PM »
well i m glad we have people on here who can understand and agree with these gameplay issues..

Salute to all..and Hopefully it will be improved in the next update..

HTC??


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