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Offline Ripsnort

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Should Cellular phone conversations be banned while driving?
« on: January 28, 2003, 08:41:04 AM »
Just curious as to the opinion of this community.  New evidence suggests that even hands-free units contribute to "Tunnel vision" while driving.

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Drivers who use a cellular telephone, even with
                   a "hands-free" device, suffer from a kind of tunnel vision that endangers
                   themselves and others, U.S. researchers said on Monday.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A51581-2003Jan27.html

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« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2003, 08:48:17 AM »
I don't know... it sure seems that people are unable to carry on a phone conversation and drive skillfully at the same time.

I would say that.... no  but.... when you are involved in a wreck that your phone logs be checked.   If you were on the phone at the time then you are charged with reckless driving.   Why is driving with a phone in your ear and a glazed look on your unseeing eyes while varying speed from 45 to 85 mph in the fast lane considered fine while spinning the rear tires a little considered reckless driving?
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« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2003, 08:51:53 AM »
I say yes, ban them.
It's becoming mandantory in a lot of places and for good reason.  Even if someone seems to be 'doing well' driving while speaking on the cell phone, doesn't mean they can handle an emergency or 'situation' sould one arise.
I really like the trend around here where people pull off the side of the road to have their cell phone conversations.

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« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2003, 08:53:01 AM »
Personally I'm split...on one hand I think I've seen some crazy drivers not paying attention on the freeway only to pass them and see that they're on the phone.  OTOH, eating a Big Mac while driving down the interstate, or putting make-up on ranks up there too.

I turn my cell phone off and put it in the glove box, but thats me...I'm not sure if its right to ban them while driving  if we haven't banned eating while driving(or other "distractions")...(shrugs)

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« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2003, 08:53:21 AM »
What I've noticed, is that when people are talking on the phone (handsfree or not), is that they stop looking around. They will see what it's front of them ok, but have no clue to whats going on around them.
So yeah..ban it

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« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2003, 08:54:19 AM »
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Originally posted by Daff
What I've noticed, is that when people are talking on the phone (handsfree or not), is that they stop looking around. They will see what it's front of them ok, but have no clue to whats going on around them.


Spot on. My observations too.

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« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2003, 08:58:12 AM »
Listening to the radio is the same type of distraction, I think as long as you're making things safe they will need to go as well.

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« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2003, 08:59:57 AM »
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Listening to the radio is the same type of distraction, I think as long as you're making things safe they will need to go as well.


Only if you're making a rational discussion with the radio. ;)

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« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2003, 09:00:27 AM »
yep... but... I don't think that everyone is incapable of driving while on the phone.   I don't think the average soccer mom would be willing to throw or drop the phone tho if she needed both hands to drive suddenly.  

just check the phone logs for the time during an accident or even a ticket..  any ticket with a phone conversation at the time doubles the fine.
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« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2003, 09:02:34 AM »
i drive fine while on the phone.

and i have a 5 speed

its those soccer moms and dads in their damn minivans which scare me. or even worse, ford - expedition class SUVs
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« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2003, 09:06:04 AM »
How about talking to someone in the backseat?  Or anyone at all in the car?  Will those be allowed?

The very idea of you girls outlawing conversations is humorous, Santa should be linking this thread in his US Nanny state thread.

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« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2003, 09:06:23 AM »
Another "arguement" would be that driving and speaking with a passenger is similiar to that of having a conversation on the phone...I don't know, but I think the two are totally different. One seems more engaged/focused on the phone whereas in person I seem more involved with my surroundings while having a conversation. It's easier to drop the conversation in order to respond to a distraction in person because the other party is also aware of what is going on.  Again, I shrug...

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« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2003, 09:08:34 AM »
there is a huge difference between talking on the phone and talking to a passenger even one in the backseat.  your eyes don't glaze over when talking to passengers.
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« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2003, 09:16:23 AM »
Here's some research from the University of Utah,

I'm just going to post the intro.  Follow the link for the rest.

"The use of cellular phones has skyrocketed in recent years, with more than 117 million subscribers in the United States as of July 1, 2001. This increase has been accompanied by an increase in the number of individuals concurrently driving and talking on the cell phone. Recent estimates suggest that cell phone users spend 60% of their cell phone time while driving. The precise effects of cell phone use on public safety are unknown; however, because of the possible increase in risks associated with the use of cell phones while driving, several legislative efforts have been made to restrict cell phone use on the road. In most cases, the legislation regarding cell phones and driving makes the tacit assumption that the source of any interference from cell phone use is due to peripheral factors such as dialing and holding the phone while conversing. Among other things, our research evaluates the validity of this assumption.

Prior research has established that the manual manipulation of equipment (e.g., dialing the phone, answering the phone, etc.) has a negative impact on driving. However, the effects of the phone conversation on driving are not as well understood, despite the fact that the duration of a typical phone conversation may be up to two orders of magnitude greater than the time required to dial or answer the phone. One study found that simple conversations did not adversely affect the ability to maintain road position. On the other hand, studies have found that working memory tasks, mental arithmetic tasks, and reasoning tasks disrupt simulated driving performance.

Our research focused on the cell phone conversation, because it comprises the bulk of the time engaged in this dual-task pairing. We sought to determine the extent to which cell phone conversations interfere with driving and, if so, the precise nature of the interference. In particular, the "peripheral interferences" hypothesis attributes interference from cell phones to peripheral factors such as holding the phone while conversing. By contrast, the "attentional hypothesis" attributes interference to the diversion of attention from driving to the phone conversation itself. The study described here is part of a larger research project that will be detailed in a forthcoming issue of Psychological Science."



http://www.nsc.org/library/shelf/inincell.htm

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« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2003, 09:17:14 AM »
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Originally posted by lazs2
there is a huge difference between talking on the phone and talking to a passenger even one in the backseat.  your eyes don't glaze over when talking to passengers.
lazs


Some drivers are scary when they talk to passengers - they turn their head at the backseat passenger and talks for few seconds.