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Offline Thrawn

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This is so sweet.

"Election financing reform bill set to be tabled in Commons
Last Updated Tue, 28 Jan 2003 17:55:42

MONTREAL - The Chrétien government will table legislation limiting sources of revenue to political parties, on Wednesday.

The new law could eventually ban political party donations from corporations and unions.

The aim is to clamp down on public perception that money interests have too much influence on policy. "

http://cbc.ca/stories/2003/01/28/contributions030128

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« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2003, 05:50:31 PM »
Now poor and unimportant average people will have as much political influence as the wealthy and those representing important bussiness or social interests!!! Finally! Thank God for Canada.

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« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2003, 06:00:00 PM »
Good luck, but we'll see how it ends up after it's done being watered down.  

I'm glad there are people in the govt that are thinking along these lines, and willing to try to do something about it.

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« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2003, 03:06:53 AM »
Government for the people!

WTG Canadians.
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« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2003, 06:15:32 AM »
Coporations will find a way to funnel money through private citizens into political parties.

Or through civic groups etc.

Smoke and mirrors but if it makes feel better, then thats all that matters..........

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« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2003, 07:46:21 AM »
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Good luck, but we'll see how it ends up after it's done being watered down.  


I don't see that necessaryily happening.  Cretien has said that this bill will be considered a "vote of non-confidence" in the Liberal government.  In Canada, if a government sponsored bill is defeated then the goverment loses legitamacy and there can be an immediate election can be called.  No one wants an election right now.  The bill also has wide multi party support.

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I'm glad there are people in the govt that are thinking along these lines, and willing to try to do something about it.


I think it has to do with the unique time we are at in Canada politics.  Our Prime Minister has about one year left, before his party kicks him out as the party leader, and hence he'd no longer be party leader.  He knows he is going to he can take great risks.  Such as pissing off the unions and the corporations.  He want's to leave his legacy after 12 years of being in power.  


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Coporations will find a way to funnel money through private citizens into political parties.

Or through civic groups etc.

Smoke and mirrors but if it makes feel better, then thats all that matters..........


It all depends on how the legislation is written.  And as I said.  This bill has wide support in parilment.  And Cretien doesn't really give a toejam what the lobbiest think of it.  And he can force it through.

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« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2003, 08:36:34 AM »
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Government for the people!

WTG Canadians.


is this the same ppl who are too lazy to even get out and vote?

or average less than a high school education?

whose attention span and depth of politics stop at last nights newscast??? :rolleyes:
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« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2003, 08:54:49 AM »
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is this the same ppl who are too lazy to even get out and vote?

or average less than a high school education?

whose attention span and depth of politics stop at last nights newscast??? :rolleyes:


Yes, the same people.

Average less than a high school education?  I find this hard to believe...virtually EVERYONE in Canada has a university degree.  Hell, it is so damn cheap!  Of course most of them end up working as waiters because the old "History" or "English Literature" degree doesn't really "cut it" in the work force.  But, they have the best eductated waiting staff in the world.

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« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2003, 09:02:39 AM »
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is this the same ppl who are too lazy to even get out and vote?

or average less than a high school education?

whose attention span and depth of politics stop at last nights newscast??? :rolleyes:



Better then your self-centered "we are the best" attitude hey chimp follower:p


we are the best....we follow chimp and make war....we follow our leader who nows dick about the world(ask em...bet ya he says Texas is the center of the world):eek:

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« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2003, 09:10:58 AM »
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is this the same ppl who are too lazy to even get out and vote?


I'm not sure what you are talking about.  Our voting statistics are much better then the US's.  :confused:

Canadian federal elections.

 Year Turnout (%)
1867 73
1872 70
1874 75
1878 71
1882 72
1887 70
1891 65
1896 61
1900 79
1904 84
1908 79
1911 72
1917 90
1921 71
1925 69
1926 70
1930 76
1935 75
1940 71
1945 76
1949 75
1953 68
1957 75
1958 81
1962 80
1963 80
1965 76
1968 76
1972 77
1974 71
1979 76
1980 69
1984 75
1988 76
1993 70
1997 67
2000 63
 


Latest US elections.


WASHINGTON, November 8 -- Fueled by grass-roots mobilization efforts in some hotly contested races, voter turnout increased modestly and likely temporarily in the 2002 mid-term election.

When final and official results are completed early next month, it is likely that an estimated 78.7 million citizens cast their ballots in the 2002 mid-term. Turnout, when the numbers finally are certified, will be 39.3 percent of eligible citizens, up modestly (1.7 percentage points) from the 37.6 percent who voted in 1998. About 121 million citizens did not cast ballots. Turnout went up in 31 states, but declined in 19 states and the District of Columbia, including some in some hotly contested statewide races. Only one state, Florida, had a record high turnout. Seven states set record lows.


U.S. Presidential Election 2000

More than 105 million Americans cast their vote for president on Nov. 7, 2000; the closest presidential race in the popular vote since 1976 and the closest presidential race in the electoral vote since 1876.  The 2000 election's voter turnout represents 9.5 million more votes than in the 1996 elections, almost a 10% increase in the number of voters, but only a slight increase from 49.0% in 1996 to 51.0% in 2000.

U.S. Presidential Election 1996

On Nov. 5 1996, nearly 96 million Americans cast valid votes in the presidential election, which represents eight million fewer voters than in 1992 despite a sharp increase in registered voters. For the first time in more than 70 years, fewer than half the eligible electorate (as defined by the adult population) voted in a presidential election.

In the 1998 congressional elections, just 36.4% of the adult population voted, down from 38.8% in the previous off-year congressional elections in 1994.

 
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« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2003, 09:24:24 AM »
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or average less than a high school education?


48% of Canadians complete post high school education.

34% of Americans complete post high school education.

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« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2003, 09:53:45 AM »
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48% of Canadians complete post high school education.

34% of Americans complete post high school education.

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better than US but still less than half....sad

my comment on "Government for the people" was based on my gov .. sry for confusion :)
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« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2003, 10:07:41 AM »
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better than US but still less than half....sad

my comment on "Government for the people" was based on my gov .. sry for confusion :)


Doh!  My misunderstanding.

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« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2003, 10:16:12 AM »
I think Eagler better go back to school.
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« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2003, 01:06:10 PM »
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Now poor and unimportant average people will have as much political influence as the wealthy and those representing important bussiness or social interests!!! Finally! Thank God for Canada.


What are you trying to say?

Do you think it is good to have a governemnt that is for sale?