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Offline steven10

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« on: February 11, 2003, 09:29:34 PM »
I totally suck at gunning. If it wasn't for my poor gunnery skills, I would be able to down any zero with my f6. The problem is that I dont know how fast bullets travel and thus how much lead I should put into it. I usually use us 50 cals, any suggestions? Also I set my convergance to one point (375)

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« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2003, 10:26:35 PM »
I set my convergence @ 300m for all planes (except for a few early warbirds) even though many planes can hit out further.  I personally don't feel confident at killing things further out than that, the closer things are the easier to hit them it is.  Even if a plane performs an evasive i'll usually hit/kill them if i'm firing @ 300 or less.  The only time i fire over 300 is when i've missed some easy shots and the con starts extending,  my frustation takes over so i take pot shots until the con turns so i can kill him.:)  


I can't remember who said this tip but it helped me-  Pull twice as much lead as you think you should.
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« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2003, 10:55:32 PM »
Unfortunatly there is no easy answer here, there is no exact lead.

Firing at under 300 is a good start, but getting the right lead is simply a matter of practicing, and practicing, and then doing it come more.

One thing though, especially with .50's.  You have a lot of guns, with a very high firing rate, so there is a lot of lead in the air.  If you lead further than you should, and let them fly through your fire, you'll get some hits.  So always try and pull more lead then you'll need.

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« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2003, 11:40:29 PM »
You might want to try AH in the offline mode--in offline mode, there will be "drone" P-51's named after HTC staffers orbiting your airfield.   These drones will re-appear after you kill them.

Take off and practice shooting at these drones from different angles (tail, diving attacks, side attacks, head-on, etc)--watch your tracers, where you hit, where you miss, etc.  Eventually you will get a good feel for gunnery.  

The F6F is a great plane to learn shooting in.  The .50's have good firing properties, you have a great ammo load and the F6F has pretty decent view over the nose for pulling lead.

Generally, the more the enemy plane is maneuvering, the more lead you will require and the closer you will want to open fire.  Shooting an unmaneuvering target is pretty easy at 500 yards; hitting a wildly evading target at 500 is almost impossible and can even be tough at 250.

375 is a good distance for convergence.  Feel free to experiment  with it--find a setting you like.  Try to set your convergence at a distance where you find yourself shooting at when you're online.  When I fly a plane with 6 x .50's, I set mine to 375-325-275, to give a "spread" of fire over a range of distances.

Finally, if you haven't already, use the PAGEUP key to move your foreward view up a little (but not so much that it makes your gunsight disappear).  Then use F10 to save this new foreward view--this will give you even better views over the nose for deflection shooting.   If you mess up the view, don't worry--the HOME key (next to pageup) will move the view back to default.

If you become confident with your shooting abilities, try shooting with tracers turned OFF.  Some pilots like that setting because, if you're a good shot, tracers will serve no purpose except to tell the enemy when you're shooting at him.  For now though, leave the tracers ON because they'll be a helpful tool for you.

In short, practice, practice, practice.


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« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2003, 02:44:29 PM »
If your gunnery with 50cals is bad, my advice to you is to stay the hell away from the LW planes. I find 50cals to be more of a point-and-click type of weapon... they travel far and fast. I don't think gunnery is something that can be taught.. you just need to practice, and maybe watch some films.
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Offline steven10

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« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2003, 03:15:20 PM »
Thanks guys, I had already turned off traces as they didn't help too much anyway. I can gun in bombers real well, I downed 2 262's on one sortie with my b17s once.

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« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2003, 06:44:08 PM »
I HAD the same problem. So after spending tons of time asking questions and getting "...well that all depends on..." for an answer I did some digging and added This Page to the Mafia website. I think the third "tip" from the bottom is the Air to Air targeting info. Check it out, its in easy to understand language, and will give you a good starting point on figuring your lead. Good luck !

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