Idiots!

[TWOLF]

http://abcnews.go.com/wire/World/reuters20030201_360.html

The above is the reaction to this morning's terrible disaster by the Idiots in Iraq.  

Edited:  post was made in anger.  

[Animal]

You in it.

[Dowding]

Yeah, and maybe the people who make those comments will get brownie points with the regime. You've seen the 'spontaneous' demonstrations of support for Saddam by his own people - they are the most stage managed events in the world, outside of the theatre.

If you take these comments seriously, then you are as much of a fool as the people making them. What were they supposed to say?

"I really feel for the Americans and the Israeli who were killed - I hope their families are ok."

lol and I'm sure the local gestapo heavy mob would love that!

[Rasker]

let those comments be known as Saddam's last words

[Tarmac]

"President (Yasser) Arafat and the Palestinian Authority offer their condolences to the six American families and the Israeli family who lost their loved ones in the catastrophe," Saeb Erekat, a senior Palestinian official and spokesman, told Reuters.

I thought that response was interesting.  Maybe it's just my optimism getting the better of me.

[Saurdaukar]

Originally posted by GScholz
What did you expect. US and ISRAELI crew, and you expect the IRAQIS to be sorry ...

You mean like a civilized state, right?  

[Dowding]

You mean like a civilized state, right?

They don't live in a civilised state - they live in a 30 year old dictatorship for shreck's sake.

[Animal]

Originally posted by Tarmac
"President (Yasser) Arafat and the Palestinian Authority offer their condolences to the six American families and the Israeli family who lost their loved ones in the catastrophe," Saeb Erekat, a senior Palestinian official and spokesman, told Reuters.

I thought that response was interesting.  Maybe it's just my optimism getting the better of me.

The "enemy" can be just as capable of honor.
But maybe its easier to visualize them as evil monsters who only dream of doing harm.

To win a war you must dehumanize your enemy.

[hazed-]

Twolf, remember everything that is released from Iraq is controlled by saddam. He tried to turn the Gulf War, essentially a invasion of kuwait for money into a Jehad, or holy war.He tried then to make the americans out as devils/enemies of God etc. Remember also that GOOD MUSLIMS realised and knew he was using their religion, one that promotes tollerance and understanding not war, to try to fire feelings of hate for western countries.They didnt buy it then and they dont buy into it now.

Dont allow Saddam to get exactly what he wants.He wants you to hate. He is no slouch when it comes to manipulating events into political statements and claims of god showing us we are right because he hopes to fuel the west/east hatred and he realises religion and 'god' are his best tools for that job.

Its a despicable statement and one i hope he pays for with his own blood,but i refuse to believe this man speaks for all in his country or the Arab nations alike and i wont let him stir up hate in me because i know thats exactly what this lunatic wants. I truelly think we are dealing with a madman but he is no fool.That statement is most likely designed to anger the Americans into fighting early. If he is going to be removed, which he must know is inevitable should the war begin he will seek to split the UN and USA in the process. Lets bide our time and remove him without making him a martyr together. Id like to see us go to war as one, a world whos opinion of his regimeand intent is united.Who knows maybe we can rid the earth of him and at the same time strengthen friendships between each other. Now that would REALLY piss saddam off

[hawk220]

I'd like to think that if the same thing happened to an 'enemy' country, that the US would show decorum and condolence to non-combatent scientists. I dunno..I'll bet there would be redneck hooters and hollerers in the streets of Podunk, USA cheering the demise of say Arab astronauts.

[miko2d]

TWOLF: Lets' wipe this pitiful country off the face of the earth!

Dowding: If you take these comments seriously, then you are as much of a fool as the people making them. What were they supposed to say?

 Iraqi people are not fools. They are either forced to lie or are cut off from the world of information and have no basis on which to form a correct opinion.
 On the other hand americans do not have those excuses to believe in stupid things.

 BTW, Twolf, why don't you buy a ticket to Turkey, cross border into northern Iraq and kill some of those iraqi's personally? I bet a $100 will buy you a decent rifle and a can of ammo right there. It's amazing how many idiots believing some war is necessary do not realise they do not need government permission to fight it. Just go there like muslm volunteers/mercenaries do in Chechnya and Chroatia and Afghanistan, like russians did in Serbia, like people from baltic states did in Moldova. The way is wide open. Gather as many of your kind as you can - it will be more fun together.

 miko

[Animal]

miko, its all bark.

[TWOLF]

Animal,
 
  I read your post regarding the terrible events of today, and know that you’re not stupid.  I also know that you are grieving the loss as we all are.  What you, and some of this community do not know, and could not unless you seen it first hand is the unmitigated hatred that the vast majority of that part of world hold for anything not Islam.  I don't hate them.  I pity them for their blind ignorance and hatred.  What cannot be tolerated is that hatred.  They will do anything to destroy Israel, the U.S. and anyone that isn’t' Muslim.  I will not apologize for my anger at them.  Nor will I stand by idly and hope that it will go away.  I don't like our current administration, but at the same time these people must be dealt with before they cause more death with their uncompromising hatred.  I hear all the time about the folks that are killed by our planes when our planes are Fired on.  Well, guess what.  Our planes were fired on.  Duh!, what do you think they are going to do?  Drop roses when they fire SAMs at them?  Collateral damage is inevitable in these cases for the most part.  But that's how the administration in that country likes it so they can send live feeds of the "Unspeakable acts of American Terrorism" to the rest of the Muslim countries.  
  I will also point out that I am an Army reservist, and a former Regular of 16 years of service.  I have already Volunteered to go, and hope to be called up soon.  But I am in a low demand MOS now for this type of campaign.  My former MOS had me in the frontline the last time.  If I am called to do that (once again I already volunteered) I will gladly go.  So you can see I am not some fat potato chip eating far right slug sitting in front of my PC beating the war drum, and blindly supporting the current Republican President.  From your sig I see that you are in Puerto Rico and are probably a U.S. Citizen.  You of course of a right any opinion for or against mine, but I thought that maybe I should make myself clear before you say that I should be wiped off the face of the earth with them.  Chances are, I will be one of the troops there doing the dirty work.

[Animal]

TWOLF, realize that what you see on the news  is not what is there.

Saddam controls the media. Basically any audio/video feed that leaves the country has been inspected by Iraq officials.

And, sadly, it works even worse the other way. Any audio/video feed coming INTO the country is also controlled by Iraqui officials. So you can imagine their perception of what we are. If you can conclude that they are evil, imagine what they think of us when their media is carefully orchestrated as a mass brainwash.

And those who dont buy it, who do not let themselves be brainwashed by the blatant propaganda, are tortured and killed. Whole villages of them.

[midnight Target]

They quoted a "government official" and a "mechanic".

Your hatred for all things Muslim TWOLF didn't allow you to read to the bottom of the article.

"President (Yasser) Arafat and the Palestinian Authority offer their condolences to the six American families and the Israeli family who lost their loved ones in the catastrophe," Saeb Erekat, a senior Palestinian official and spokesman, told Reuters.

Erekat said Arafat had sent President Bush a message of condolences over the loss of the NASA space agency's shuttle. The United States, Israel's closest ally, is the chief Middle East peace broker.