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Offline Skuzzy

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« on: February 01, 2003, 05:05:35 PM »
In a thread here today, I was pretty harsh.  For that I apologize to the community.

What I should have done, was simply ask that the community at large please take this day to honor those that died in Space Shuttle Columbia.

Nothing more, nothing less.  Today is thier day and thier families day and I would like to ask our community to respect and honor that.

Thank you and again, I apologize for the abrupt behavior.
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« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2003, 05:31:28 PM »
Today we lost more than seven human lives, but we also risk to lose their own dreams, as they might well fade away like the remains of their ship.


I was watching on television as their family members addressed the nation with pride, not a single tear on their eye, and spoke of honor. How their kin did not fear death, because their dream was even greater than pride and desire for glory.
They did not care to die as heroes, because they risked their lives for something greater. And that is what makes them true heroes.

I watched the sister of Michael P. Anderson say things that captivated me even more than the Presidents speech. She talked of how she did not despair, because her brother died doing what he truly loved and believed in. She looked sad, but she was strong, a character trait that she shared with him. She wasnt even crying because there was no reason for it.

What saddens me even more than the death of the astronauts is to see a nation fall into hopelessnes. To see this event as another tragic misfortune that seems to plague this nation as of late.
I even felt rage as the nation scrambled in paranoia, almost trying to believe that this accident was the cause of someone else doing us harm.

I have a fear, which I hope is unfounded, that their deaths may end up being in vain. That like it has happened before (though some may not admit) we may shy away from the beautiful goals set by a generation before us. That we may put an early end to an enterprise that is not even getting started.

I hope that this is not the case. I hope that, in the same spirit of 9/11, we can recover RIGHT NOW and determine ourselves to rebuild what we lost.

Build it better, stronger, safer, and more beautiful than the one before. And soon. Because we need that pride now.
We do not lack the volunteers, the skill, and the determination. What we need is hope, hard work, and curiosity, given that the new generations will continue the tradition of discovery and victory set as a great standard by our ancestors.
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« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2003, 05:57:01 PM »
Terrible news indeed. I remember when i was in school when the challenger exploded and that was a terrible disaster too.The fact that the first civilian, a much loved school teacher,  was on board seemed to make it worse.
This terrible accident is a reminder of the risks these brave and forward looking astronoughts face whenever they attempt to go to space, or return from it.I salute them and all the other people involved in the bravest of endevours, the exploration of space.
My heart goes out to their families, the parents of one of those killed aboard the columbia were shown on the news here in the UK and i can only say it was a heart rending interveiw but very inspiring.They mentioned how excited he was and how truelly proud they were of him.A really sad thing to happen.

I only hope this doesnt stop your countries space programme.Its a true measure of mankinds determination to explore and understand the universe we live in and just what our place in it is which has to be the most important and age old questioon mankind has asked. I hope the international space station isnt cancelled and the many other projects currently in the making.

From the reports in the news the cause could well be that piece of debris that hit the wing on takeoff.There was the possibility of loss of heat sheild tiles or even damage to the leading edge of the left wing which could cause severe vibrations, changes in pitch or attitude, oscillations etc any of which could be catastrofic at the speeds of re-entry. I hope somehow they are able to find out what went wrong.

Anyway like i said Im saddened by this news and I feel for their families and all americans at times like these. A unwarrented blow to a nations pride when they certainly didnt deserve it.

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« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2003, 07:42:38 PM »
The symbolism of this event is quite apparent when tying it in with current events in the Middle East.

Columbia, named after Christopher Columbus the discoverer of the Americas, the symbol of this country.

The shuttle contained Israel’s first astronaut. The son of a holocaust survivor he took part in the 1981 strike on the Iraqi nuclear power plant. An unprovoked attack.

The debris fell on Palestine, Texas, Bush’s home state. A clear omen of the consequences we’ll suffer if we continue on with our support of Israel.

Evidence points to a failure in the left wing, a clear analogy of the failure of the democrats in this country to counterbalance the fascist leanings of the current administration.

My condolences to these brave souls.

If war with Iraq is avoided because of the opening of people’s hearts, then they didn’t die in vain.

Who said that God never talks?
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« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2003, 07:46:02 PM »
you are kidding, aren't you Blur? next you will tell us that Nostradamus predicted it..


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« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2003, 07:48:52 PM »
Animal, you are too eloquent to be a FDB.


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« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2003, 07:52:37 PM »
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Originally posted by blur
The symbolism of this event is quite apparent when tying it in with current events in the Middle East.

Columbia, named after Christopher Columbus the discoverer of the Americas, the symbol of this country.

The shuttle contained Israel’s first astronaut. The son of a holocaust survivor he took part in the 1981 strike on the Iraqi nuclear power plant. An unprovoked attack.

The debris fell on Palestine, Texas, Bush’s home state. A clear omen of the consequences we’ll suffer if we continue on with our support of Israel.

Evidence points to a failure in the left wing, a clear analogy of the failure of the democrats in this country to counterbalance the fascist leanings of the current administration.

My condolences to these brave souls.

If war with Iraq is avoided because of the opening of people’s hearts, then they didn’t die in vain.

Who said that God never talks?



So you are basically saying that God has come down and killed 7 astronauts to get us to not goto war in the Middle East and to forsake the Israelis?  Your interpretation of God seems to be one of fire and brimstone... maybe its time to open up the book again, eh?!  :rolleyes:

Skuzzy, you are right, this is their day, Godspeed Crew of Columbia...
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« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2003, 08:12:59 PM »
to the crew of the space shuttle columbia

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« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2003, 08:13:40 PM »
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« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2003, 09:21:36 PM »
You cant break us.

U...S.... of A.

We dont break... we take the fire and we forge ourselves into something stronger. The US will NOT falter because of this tragdy.

It will morn its fallen Heros and drive on.

Why?..because this is what we do.


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« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2003, 12:54:50 PM »
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The symbolism of this event is quite apparent when tying it in with current events in the Middle East.

Columbia, named after Christopher Columbus the discoverer of the Americas, the symbol of this country.

The shuttle contained Israel’s first astronaut. The son of a holocaust survivor he took part in the 1981 strike on the Iraqi nuclear power plant. An unprovoked attack.

The debris fell on Palestine, Texas, Bush’s home state. A clear omen of the consequences we’ll suffer if we continue on with our support of Israel.

Evidence points to a failure in the left wing, a clear analogy of the failure of the democrats in this country to counterbalance the fascist leanings of the current administration.

My condolences to these brave souls.

If war with Iraq is avoided because of the opening of people’s hearts, then they didn’t die in vain.

Who said that God never talks?


you really are astounding. Wouldnt it be easier for a God who after all can do ANYTHING to kill saddam instead?, maybe even bush and blair too in their sleep if he needed to emphasise the point? sure would stop a war better than killing the brightest and possibly the LEAST warlike humans on the face of the earth (with exception of the military pilot).
Do you really think a God would communicate his will in this manner? astounding! you should listen to yourself.

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« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2003, 01:05:51 PM »
There's never a shortage of those willing to attribute disaster to God's judgement. Was true in Job's day as it ours. Ya never hear the same folks attributing success to God's blessing though. :rolleyes:
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« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2003, 01:27:06 PM »
Skuzzy,

Frankly I don't think you were harsh at all. In fact I think you have been rather lenient in tollerating the boorishness of several who posted here regarding the tragedy. Please don't stop trying to educate those who abuse the priveledge of posting on this bbs. This was a tragedy and didn't deserve to be trampled on by those who feel they have to interject their political views into everything.
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« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2003, 05:58:48 PM »
You have nothing to apologize for at all.

"Boorish" as the previous poster put it seems to fit those that would criticize others for expressing themselves at this time.  Low class, scum..... just a couple of others I'll throw out for consideration.

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« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2003, 11:34:08 PM »
*Ahem*

The space shuttle Columbia was named for a ship in the United States Navy that sailed up what is now the Columbia River in WA in 1792, if I get my facts correct.

As for the rest, it's also bollocks.