Author Topic: If Oleg Maddox Wanted to Do a MMP-Could HiTech Compete (Not a Troll)? (Read 1117 times)

28sweep · « **on:** February 03, 2003, 07:04:14 AM »

I work for a very, very large manufacturing/engineering company and my company has recently announced that the majority of software development work will now be contracted to India. We have been doing some of that for a while-but now we are shifting the MAJORITY of this work to India. As a result-we are in the process of laying-off a lot talented programmers. Russia is very similar in this respect. Low wages + a lot of talented people not working means that Oleg can have his pick of the best programmers and hire them at ¼ (or less) the wages HiTech must pay. In fact- I have heard you can often find Phd’s in Moscow driving cabs. If he decided to directly compete with HiTech- then I don’t see how HiTech could compete……….Somebody more familiar with this business can enlighten me???

Animal · « **Reply #1 on:** February 03, 2003, 07:08:36 AM »

ra · « **Reply #2 on:** February 03, 2003, 07:25:58 AM »

Remeber the Y2K hype where everyone thought there was going to be a huge shortage of IT professionals for the forseeable future? Now you can find good programmers working at Walmart. I feel sorry for kids who decided to major in Computer Science in the late 90's thinking they would have a safe carreer, only to find that 3rd world competition makes them nearly unemployable.

ra

UserName · « **Reply #3 on:** February 03, 2003, 07:26:48 AM »

That's what some Il-2 fanboi's will have you believe.

Credit to some guy on the SimHQ forum.

Mini D · « **Reply #4 on:** February 03, 2003, 07:52:45 AM »

"If" Oleg Maddox wanted to do a mmp? "IF"?

An MMP version of Il-2 was just around the corner after the game's initial release. It was to be "no problem" and the server "had already been tested".

MiniD

Hortlund · « **Reply #5 on:** February 03, 2003, 08:47:28 AM »

Well, the simple answer is "no one could really compete". While this might make all the fanbois here nervous, and distressed. You have to remember that HTC has what? 5-7 employees? With how many doing the programming?

Oleg has what? A staff of 30-something experienced programmers, he can hire twice that number if he wants. As someone said, the salaries in Russia are a joke, you can find people working for cabbage for crying out loud.

Tuomio · « **Reply #6 on:** February 03, 2003, 09:05:17 AM »

Let the most competent win, thats all i care.

Saurdaukar · « **Reply #7 on:** February 03, 2003, 09:10:14 AM »

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Originally posted by Tuomio
Let the most competent win, thats all i care.

Obviously not an American. Why let the most qualified do the job when you can meet a quota?

AKIron · « **Reply #8 on:** February 03, 2003, 09:14:28 AM »

Competition is the American way.

28sweep · « **Reply #9 on:** February 03, 2003, 11:17:27 AM »

I think HiTech's should do either two things:

1) OutSource development of AHII to India. For the price of 2 new developers in the US he could have 20 working in India. Like for example-Microsoft;while they sleep in Seattle- hundreds of developers are working on a project in India. They pass-it off at the start of the Seattle work day and work is done on a project 24hrs/day.

2) Let the community get more involved with models etc..I think Oleg as struck a good balance by having everything submitted and checked before being incorporated into the game.

Anyway-I've noticed that Software business can be crule and unforgiving. Many companies have declared Programming to be a Commodity- to be outsourced to the lowest bidder.

Hristo · « **Reply #10 on:** February 03, 2003, 01:22:59 PM »

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Originally posted by 28sweep
I think HiTech's should do either two things:

1) OutSource development of AHII to India.

No way ! This would make Indian planes in AH uber, while Pakistani iron would simply suck. No way, I tell you !

28sweep · « **Reply #11 on:** February 03, 2003, 01:25:49 PM »

There are no Indian Planes..Just lots of Cows and Tigers that eat people.

ra · « **Reply #12 on:** February 03, 2003, 01:36:13 PM »

Cows eat people in India? Perk em!

Hortlund · « **Reply #13 on:** February 03, 2003, 01:43:58 PM »

Suddenly everything falls into place...

so..they are not really worshipping the cows...they are food for the cows, that explains so much.

Hristo · « **Reply #14 on:** February 03, 2003, 01:47:29 PM »

Hmm, I always thought cobras were responsible for most deaths in India.