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« Reply #15 on: February 04, 2003, 09:18:39 AM »
Its a lot less than I know about Spain. And in its history you will find many parallels with US history. But thats history.

I dont care to know about You.
But since we are playing a game of assumptions... ;)

Relax, there is nothing wrong with there being nice nations other than America. You are not threatned.

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« Reply #16 on: February 04, 2003, 09:21:29 AM »
Spain is a beautiful country and the people are great. My cousin teaches English in Zaragoza, and I've been going there every summer for a few years - she got married last year. I just love the place, and would move there in a shot if I could speak a little more Spanish.

Stay in the US lazs - the world is a terrible place outside the US. I agree totally with you, there's no need for you to leave.
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« Reply #17 on: February 04, 2003, 12:37:57 PM »
well animal... fact is you don't know anything about me but you presume to claim to know what I do and don't know.  

maybe I read it wrong but cyrano's post is the one that seemed defensive to me.    The subject of the whole thing in my opinion was that America is comprised of many nationalities so..... Hating America is like hating people in general..  Cyrano gave examples that prove the uniqueness of America.... The diversity is real.   Japan?  LOL...   Africa?  Huh?   Africa is a bunch of nations that even tho they are allmost entirely of one race.... are bigots.   I have not been to a country yet where I don't get along with the people.   I can say tho that, politicaly, I have very little use for most countries  and find the U.S. to be the best in that regard.

I think I could live in a lot of other countries but I would have to live away from the large population centers.   Some countries would be worse than others.

It just seemed that for someone from Spain to get upset about Americas claim to diversity of race and heritage... well...
lazs

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« Reply #18 on: February 04, 2003, 12:59:25 PM »
At any rate...MT's post was good. :D

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« Reply #19 on: February 04, 2003, 02:07:07 PM »
I was not upset... just wanted to say that you can be a citizen of the world and love diversity without feeling american.

But yes, I overanalized MT's post, thus sounding defensive. Let this post clarify the whole thing and we can all move on. :)

America's diversity is indeed its more valuable asset, just as much as the differences that a spaniard and a finn can have... that's why I have faith in the European Community as a whole.

Daniel, happy to be a citizen of this strange mess that's Europe right now :)

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« Reply #20 on: February 04, 2003, 02:22:41 PM »
cyrano... I can see how it would be interesting to be part of europe.   I like the idea of being able to see so many countries so easily.    In America... we actually do travel a lot tho... we put a lot of miles on our cars.   You would be surprised (or maybe you allready know) at how divirse is not only our population but our landscape and our states themselves.... allmost like little nations unto themselves.   It would take a great deal of time to really see most of America.   We also have Canada and Mexico on our borders.    One could concievably drive from Alaska to South America...  The distances and cultures are staggering.

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« Reply #21 on: February 04, 2003, 02:40:55 PM »
Dunno if I said it in this thread, but I LOVE visiting the USA... I have already been to Wisconsin, NY, Maryland, Florida, California, Vegas, the Great Canyon, Yosemite, and I plan to go back when I have the time and the money.

As you can see I like your country a lot; it's just that I prefer living here :)

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« Reply #22 on: February 05, 2003, 09:03:23 AM »
cyrano... if you get out to northeren CA... give me a call and you can stay at my place or just meet up.
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« Reply #23 on: February 05, 2003, 09:07:25 AM »
Who possesed lazs's computer and turned him into a great guy?

As for American landscapes, here is a pic from my LA -> Seattle roadtrip thru the 101

Just a taste of the beauty you can see there:

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« Reply #24 on: February 05, 2003, 09:21:47 AM »
A beautiful little red "X"

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« Reply #25 on: February 05, 2003, 09:35:31 AM »
Naso,

I just found out that my Maternal Grandparents came from a small town in Calabria called Umbriatico. Have you ever heard of it?

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« Reply #26 on: February 05, 2003, 10:24:12 AM »
@MT

Umbriatico....

In some way sound me familiar, but i dont know why.

BTW is near Crotone, checked the map.

People from Calabria is known in Italy (in jokes and popular culture) as stubborn people, with one-piece eyebrow, and a strong dialect accent.

Their accent is represented with strong C (read K) and T.

The dialect have some root in Napolitan (the kingdom that covered all Southern Italy before unification), and in Crotone and Reggio Calabria zones lot more strong Sicilian influence.

If you want a typical (excessive) representation of a Calabrese, check "the Godfather II", the man that Al Pacino call from Italy to assist the process he was in, and induce the "cooperator" to testify.

The food it's usually strong taste, with a big use of peperoncino spice (not like mexican food but near), in fact a particular very strong variety of the Peperoncino it's a typical product of Calabria.

The sea of Calabria is one of the principal vacation attraction, a lot of people of Southern Italy and a good share of the center and North, spend the sea vacations in Calabria.

There's a tradition to represent Calabria as the land of origin of the "Briganti", in some way rebels of the newborn Italy, usually mere criminals.

In the middle of the Region there's the "Sila" a group of mountains very rough and defendable, in fact it's a stronghold of the local criminal organization, called "n'drangheta" (derived from "Briganti" or so they say), the police (Carabinieri), usually goes in the Sila in complete war asset, sometime even using Armored Cars.

Attention, the n'drangheta it's NOT the mafia, have different origins, but anyway today it's almost under control (colonized ;) ) by the sicilian mafia.

It's a beautiful land that deserve a visit, well, every place in the world deserve a visit (maybe with the exception of Detroit area ;) ).

If you want to have a look to your ancestors land, give me a call, I will be happy to be your interpreter.

:)

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« Reply #27 on: February 05, 2003, 10:24:53 AM »
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« Reply #28 on: February 05, 2003, 10:25:30 AM »
Last one, a Brigante.

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« Reply #29 on: February 05, 2003, 11:19:18 AM »
Excellent, thank you.

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People from Calabria is known in Italy (in jokes and popular culture) as stubborn people, with one-piece eyebrow, and a strong dialect accent.


This does decribe some of my cousins. My mother married a Swede (much to the horror of the family I'm sure), so I don't look very Italian.

I will definitely let you know if I make the trip. The food sounds great!