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Offline OZkansas

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« on: February 08, 2003, 08:20:40 AM »
Now that the government is subsidizing the hydrogen car it guarantees that it will be as well built as a Yugo and be priced at the Rolls-Royce level.  It will also be in the junkyard before the first of five year’s payments are complete.

Yes, I will need income tax relief to pay for this more then likely mandated fiasco!

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« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2003, 12:58:51 PM »
What I'm wondering is where they have discovered these hydrogen deposits?  Is there a great hydrogen field under the US?

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« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2003, 01:20:16 PM »
Come on, Funked! Every schoolchild knows that the Sun is 99% pure hydrogen. We will just build a few more shuttles and send them there.

 Alternatively, the space is filled with hydrogen - about one atom per 100 cubic feet. The Earth is moving very fast through space - so all we need is to build a humongous scoop and then we just sit at it's narrow end collect free hydrogen.

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« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2003, 05:05:00 PM »
you people need to get out of the 18th century and get up to speed, you can crack hydrogen out of any hydro-carbon, you can also make gasoline out of natural gas or coal, New Zeland has been making gasoline out of natural gas for years.

Honda is selling fuel-cell (hydrogen fueled) cars to the city of LA.

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« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2003, 05:48:58 PM »
How much energy does it take to make that hydrogen, and where does that energy come from, and how much pollution is created by that energy?  :)

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« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2003, 06:15:32 PM »
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Originally posted by funkedup
How much energy does it take to make that hydrogen, and where does that energy come from, and how much pollution is created by that energy?  :)



huh.. the.. sun?
or maybe nucular?
:)

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« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2003, 06:58:06 PM »
Burning diesel in a power plant to create electricity, using that electricity to seperate hydrogen from ocygen in water, after that, using the Hydrogen to power the latest Honda STILL beats the energy converted by a normal car engine running on gasoline.
However, Hydrogen cars are no magic answers to the global energy requirement, - they are merely a sideshow. They can prolong the inevitable "run-out-of-oil" problem a bit, and of course, city traffic loaded with just Hydro cars would leave practically NO pollution. But eventually, mankind will either have to harness new energy sources, or change its habits drastically............
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2003, 07:07:48 PM »
"Honda is selling fuel-cell (hydrogen fueled) cars to the city of LA."

Heh heh, and LA is paying for those Hondas the same that they could buy a normal Lincoln Town Car for (500 bucks/month).

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« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2003, 07:08:51 PM »
For now the best solution are hybrid cars. The Honda hybrids are VERY VERY nice. You dont lose any quality at all.

And in some states you get a nice tax refund for using hybrids.

Here is a good review of a Honda Civic Hybrid:

http://arstechnica.com/reviews/02q3/civic-hybrid/2003-civic-hy-1.html

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« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2003, 09:37:04 PM »
heh.  Animal swap your dad's vette out for one of those hybrids and see if he doesn't notice any quality drop.

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« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2003, 09:45:30 PM »
Read about those Hybrid cars and they look interesting. Might make a great second car for around town and short trips. One in each two car family would save a lot of gasoline.

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« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2003, 09:54:30 PM »
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heh.  Animal swap your dad's vette out for one of those hybrids and see if he doesn't notice any quality drop.


I drove a hybrid civic and compared to the regular one, its just as fast and handles as well.

The only difference is that it goes to battery mode when you are driving slow, and the car goes dormant in traffic stops.

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« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2003, 10:01:20 PM »
I haven't driven the civic, but the insight couldn't go uphill with 2 fdbs in the car.

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« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2003, 10:15:38 PM »
The Insight was crap.

Offline OZkansas

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« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2003, 10:18:15 PM »
Say isn't all the hydrogen in the world under Iraq?

Bush, you wise man you:)