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Renfield

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Surprising Concorde crash determination....
« on: September 11, 2000, 10:52:00 PM »
 

Shade324th

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« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2000, 10:54:00 PM »
Wow...
Thats totally not funny at all.

People died.

Renfield

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« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2000, 11:15:00 PM »
You know the pilot's last words, don't you Shade?

"I said a Bud Light!!!"

Offline BotaBing

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« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2000, 11:23:00 PM »
You know what I heard...

The plane that took off before the Concorde was missing a piece of metal trim from inside one of the jet housings. A piece of metal trim almost exactly matching the missing piece was found in the crash wreckage.

They determined that the metal piece had punctured the tires, the tires spewed up and punctured the fuel tank.

France says that a runway sweep was missed due to a fire drill.

Makes ya feel real safe huh?

Offline indian

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« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2000, 12:18:00 AM »
I think the metal peice was found on the runway. But anyway go to AVWEBS site and read what they actauly talk about on it. The tires could have just ruptured.

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« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2000, 12:36:00 AM »
You have to wonder about a plane that blows up when a tire blows.  For the military this may be acceptable, just not with 100 passengers on board

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« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2000, 12:43:00 AM »
The concordes takeoff speed is around 250 mph. Imagine the RPMs those tires turn. When one lets go, you bet its gonna carry some kinetic energy.

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« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2000, 12:50:00 AM »
I agree hblair... you'd think that would have been a consideration when the plane was made.  Tires blow out... for many different reasons.  Its better to plan for it than to hope it just never happens.

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Offline Sparks

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« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2000, 05:29:00 AM »
Not going to get into the details but it may be best not to jump to conclusions about that accident. A close relative is a captain on Concorde and there is considerable "discussion" on what happened and the political manouvreing going on. It's interesting to me to be able to see the real story and the press story.

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« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2000, 06:08:00 AM »
Regardless of the accident they are magnificent planes and it's a shame that the current fleet of a dozen or so is all there is.

There's no replacement. So when they die - they die forever...

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Renfield

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« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2000, 09:00:00 AM »
Not true Lynx. There is a "Super Concorde" being being developed and built. It won't be ready by the end of these Concorde's service lifetimes, but not too terribly long afterwards.

There was some sort of fiberglass deflector added to the British Concordes but not to the French. Whether or not it would have prevented the crash, I sure don't know. What is known is that there have been a number of tire failures that led to pieces of tire and/or pieces of wheel penetrating the wing and fuel tank. This one just caught fire.

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« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2000, 09:10:00 AM »
Yep there are several previous instances of tire failures on the Concorde resulting in damage to fuel, engine, hydraulic, and landing gear systems.

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« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2000, 09:43:00 AM »
Actually damage to the aircraft from tire debris isn't limited to the Concorde,TWA,Delta,LuftHansa,etc all of them have maintenance log entries about repairs being done because of FOD damage from tires.
The Concorde caught a "golden BB" trying to read more into that sounds like media sensationalism, remember all the crap over flight 800? hell, they had everything from the navy blowing it away to collision with a UFO  
FOD is FOD, and it's very bad for aircraft, which is why we in the industry worry about it so much.

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« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2000, 09:50:00 AM »
ditto pzvg

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« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2000, 09:52:00 AM »
This hysteria about Concorde is nuts! how many times have you read about 747's crashing or bits dropping off and yet everyone seems more than happy to fly off on holiday without a second thought.