Author Topic: A Flame Free Discussion on France (Read 2137 times)

muckmaw · « **on:** February 11, 2003, 11:51:13 AM »

I do not consider myself an ignorant person.

However, I'm trying to understand why the French are consistantly trying to block every initiative the United States puts forth in the case against Iraq.

Of course, Germany and Russia include themselves in this camp, but the French seem to be the most vocal.

So I ask you this; what are they trying to achieve?

I am no fan of going to war with Iraq. As a matter of fact, somtimes I get the feeling the President has a personal vendetta against Hussein. I have not seen any real proof of the possession of WMD, although I believe they are there. I think Powell made a good case for the UN, but I am not 100% convinced. I support the president, and more importantly, the troops that will have to fight this war.

But can someone tell me, in a FLame free way, what the French are protecting by balking? Are they afraid of the interruption of the oil flow? Is their sale of arms to Iraq? Are they simply pacifists?

And above all else, why would they refuse to assist in the protection of Turkey, a NATO member?

Once again, let's try and keep this Flameless. I would just like some honest answers that I cannot get from the biased media.

Thanks in advance.

Hangtime · « **Reply #1 on:** February 11, 2003, 11:55:27 AM »

Oil.

They are Husseins largest customer in a variety of areas. If we boot hussein, they lose the preferintial deals.

It really simple.. The French would rather do buisness with Hussein than anybody we'd put in his place.

Furious · « **Reply #2 on:** February 11, 2003, 12:18:32 PM »

...that and weaponery.

Lotta french stuff in SH's inventory. They made alot of money selling it to him.

So...when the next dictator is out shopping for a new air superiority fighter or some air-surface missiles, and is reading the nice french brochures, and suddenly realizes that all that expensive french toejam didn't keep the last guy from getting his bellybutton handed to him...

...well, that just can't be good for business.

SLO · « **Reply #3 on:** February 11, 2003, 12:27:29 PM »

understand 1 thing.....americans DO NOT control ever1's thought.

France see's Differently then the US....AND THERE MAKIN THERE OPINIONS KNOWN

why does that tickle your funny bone?

at least france is not doin what the Germans did...that is calling BUSH a little Hitler....go figure.

its to be expected...when your opinion differs then that of americans...your branded as a traitor...and whine whine whine

personnelly...I want Saddam out....but i think BUSH is pushing it to far by makin the "UN" look un-important.....

my country will follow the UN..not the US

personnelly i don't give a watermelon what monkey brains(Bush) thinks about that...or you for that matter

Hangtime · « **Reply #4 on:** February 11, 2003, 12:30:46 PM »

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its to be expected...when your opinion differs then that of americans...your branded as a traitor...and whine whine whine

Hey.. the thread starter said "flame-free"; yah french-canadian twit!!

edit: he didn't anwser any of the questions either. *sniff*

Eagler · « **Reply #5 on:** February 11, 2003, 12:33:40 PM »

will the OBL/Iraq tape change anyones mind?

doubt it, if Powells powerpoint presentation didn't don't think anything will...

ra · « **Reply #6 on:** February 11, 2003, 12:36:09 PM »

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personnelly...I want Saddam out....but i think BUSH is pushing it to far by makin the "UN" look un-important.....

The UN is making itself into a big joke by constantly drawing lines in the sand and then backing off. Bush has nothing to do with that.

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my country will follow the UN..not the US

Your country should follow your country.

ra

midnight Target · « **Reply #7 on:** February 11, 2003, 12:38:55 PM »

I had flames in 10 in the over-under. Wooo Hoooo!

SLO · « **Reply #8 on:** February 11, 2003, 12:43:36 PM »

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Originally posted by ra
The UN is making itself into a big joke by constantly drawing lines in the sand and then backing off. Bush has nothing to do with that.

Your country should follow your country.

ra

there's a big difference between Bush and the UN.....Bush controls 1 country...the UN is tryin to balance much more then 1.....think...don't let monkey brains decide 4 u

that 1 i don't understand "your country should follow your country"

Hangtime...I luv u 2...now shud-up:eek:

AKIron · « **Reply #9 on:** February 11, 2003, 12:45:37 PM »

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Originally posted by SLO
understand 1 thing.....americans DO NOT control ever1's thought.

Just keep thinking that. (turns up the power on the thought control ray)

Hangtime · « **Reply #10 on:** February 11, 2003, 12:48:56 PM »

Most apt BBS handle I ever saw.

Furious · « **Reply #11 on:** February 11, 2003, 12:51:50 PM »

french-canadian.

hmmmm.

damn it. where do you start with that? the mind literally reels at the nearly limitless variety of colorful insults. (all in good fun, sure.)

Rockstar · « **Reply #12 on:** February 11, 2003, 12:52:37 PM »

I wouldn't be concerned about France or anyother country's opinion at the moment.

In politics nobody can lose face, at the end of negotiations everyone leaving the table must feel like they got the best deal out of all. France isn't the enemy neither is Germany or Russia, Iraq is. More than likely Russia, France, Germany and us are trying to ensure their interests in the region are secured. Once the pie is cut to everyones satisfaction we'll get the green light to level the place and sort things out as previously agreed.

Until then politicians will feed the media who in turn will regurgitate it and feeds it us. Unfortunetly some will fall for every word spoken.

SLO · « **Reply #13 on:** February 11, 2003, 12:58:25 PM »

well said rockstar:cool:

Lol akiron

furious...whats that supposed to mean....hmmm:p

straffo · « **Reply #14 on:** February 11, 2003, 01:59:24 PM »

It's simple if ever the ricain bust poor little Saddam the remplacing prettythang hole carfully choosen among CIA puppets (not Osama as he got sacked) will not sell a single litter of oil to a non US/UK "multinational" compagny.

Is that good/harsh enough Hang ?

Can I apply to the FDB now and should I send you a resume ?

no flame where used when writing this post
well in fact I've to say ... a bottle of Chorey-les-Beaune 99 was near (it's a Bourgogne for you ignorant american

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