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Offline cpxxx

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« Reply #15 on: February 15, 2003, 08:55:40 AM »
No it's not a RNZAF corsair. But isn't it beautiful? I love the F4U. The Corsair is my all time favourite  fighter aircraft. The big blue meanie. I don't fly it much in AH because it kills me more than the enemy does. No wonder it was called the 'Ensign Eliminator'. It eliminated me a few times. But as soon as my experience level grows I'm going to hire out an F4U-4 and clear the skies of my enemies!:mad:

Poopster managed to hit the nail on the head. It's a game but like all games played by men, half the fun is arguing about it and all the monday morning quarterbacking that goes on.

What I like about it is the opportunity to regurgitate all that useless knowledge I built up over the years reading all those fighter pilot's biographies. I'm a frustrated fighter pilot, born in the wrong country, no fighter aircraft here since they retired the Spitfire IX or the Seafire III. So it give me the opportunity to adopt that classic fighter pilots pose of reliving the fight with my hands and telling classic 'There I was, compeltely surrounded but........' type tales.  

I love the thrill of the big missions surrounded in the sky by all those evocative aircraft and the tension of the one on one duel.

Sometimes when flying the real thing though. I find myself tempted to roll in behind some hapless Cessna, hit the PTT switch  and make silly machine gun sounds over the airwaves.  

Ah maybe one day I'll grow up?

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« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2003, 12:58:33 PM »
cpxxx,

A friend of mine (who coincidentally flys AH also) and I are both pilots. Occasionally, we'll up a couple of Cessna Aerobats and dogfight a little bit over the Everglades swamp here in Florida. We just bring a camera (we call it the "gun cam") and snap a quick shot of eachother's six when we get a nice close in "kill shot".  I'm sure the people on Unicom are wondering why they occasionally hear "Splash One" over the radio... hehehe

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« Reply #17 on: February 15, 2003, 01:00:48 PM »
P.S.

I'll have to dig up a kill shot picture and scan it for the post...  It's amusing to say the least...  Maybe one day I'll grow up too. LOL

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« Reply #18 on: February 15, 2003, 04:44:59 PM »
Off topic but : Isnt the F4 Phantom the most beautiful plane. Why they have to retire it. At least the Luftwaffe it putting that bird to good use.

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« Reply #19 on: February 15, 2003, 06:04:14 PM »
I agree Viper, on BAD aircraft.


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« Reply #20 on: February 19, 2003, 11:06:21 AM »
Only it's Mother could describe the the F4 Phantom as beautiful. The poor old 'Rhino' had character but pretty it was not. As a Marine pilot once said; Most American aircraft were handsome but the F4 was ugly enough to be British.

Tut tut GrimCO, I could never approve of that sort of thing.  That would be like strafing a Mississippi river barge or a low level tail chase down the river or a formation beat up of a small farm strip in the Irish midlands or strafing a farmer on his little tractor ploughing a field. Now that would be very bad, something I would never do.  Not recently anyway, most irresppnsible. :rolleyes:
Don't try this at home, kids. Remember in real life the message 'You have been killed' means game over.:eek:  (Just in case the FAA or IAA are reading this.)

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« Reply #21 on: February 19, 2003, 12:27:10 PM »
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Is the F4U not the most gorgeous aircraft ever to have existed? I mean, really...


Got to sit in one over the weekend at the New England Air Museum. Almost wet myself !!!

Sat in a P-47, F-4U, F4 Phantom, and an F-100. They are also restoring a B-29 and got a tour of the restoration hanger. What a bird that plane is.
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« Reply #22 on: February 19, 2003, 01:17:27 PM »
I haven't played golf once since I signed on for this game.  I don't really miss it.  Although the next time I go, I'll probably yell Check 6 instead of 4!

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« Reply #23 on: February 19, 2003, 01:23:45 PM »
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cpxxx,

A friend of mine (who coincidentally flys AH also) and I are both pilots. Occasionally, we'll up a couple of Cessna Aerobats and dogfight a little bit over the Everglades swamp here in Florida. We just bring a camera (we call it the "gun cam") and snap a quick shot of eachother's six when we get a nice close in "kill shot".  I'm sure the people on Unicom are wondering why they occasionally hear "Splash One" over the radio... hehehe


OMG. Hope you got a good deck alt set. Isn`t mock dogfighting, like, illegal ? Just asking.

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« Reply #24 on: February 19, 2003, 03:34:47 PM »
Illegal? Well, not really... I'd say it's more of a gray area...LOL  What would be illegal is executing maneuvers that exceed 60 degrees of bank without wearing a parachute. Of course we don't wear chutes, so therefore we don't exceed 60 degrees of bank... hehehe

BTW, formation flying isn't the slightest bit illegal either. You can even take off that way if you inform the tower you're a flight of two  :-)

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« Reply #25 on: February 19, 2003, 03:39:29 PM »
LOL cpxxx,

I've found similar no no's like strafing cruise ships and farm workers to be irresponsible nowadays also. Especially after the WTC attacks. The FAA, I believe, would tend to frown heavily on these types of activities nowadays. The thrill is gone  :-(  LOL

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« Reply #26 on: February 19, 2003, 09:50:08 PM »
No devious it's not illegal to fly close to another aircraft when the other pilot is aware of you, otherwise Flying mag couldn't get those great cover shots. Nor is is illegal to engage in aerobatic manoeuvres in close proximity to another aircraft. Otherwise how would those full size air combat simulators using SF260's or T34's operate?  Has anyone here had experience of these companies by the way.

As long as you don't do it overhead a major metropolitan area no one will worry about it. It's just your neck and that of your friend.

On the other hand flying closer than 500 feet to anyone or anything on the ground unless landing or taking off. Nothing I or GrimCO have said or implied should allow anyone reading this document to draw the conclusion that we at any time breached the 500 foot rule while in control of a powered aircraft. That right GrimCO? We never lie either.

But let this story be a warning to you. One day the crew of a military aircraft of an undetermined country was out on a training flight. After completing their detail the were RTBing along the coast at nought feet +/- 50 feet. You see the CO happened to be off that day and they knew that any complaint about low flying would be taken by the friend holding the fort back at base.
Presently they spotted on an otherwise empty beach a couple obviously enjoying a picnic. This was too good a chance to miss. They racked the aircraft around dropped to 10 feet off the deck and screamed in head on towards the hapless couple. Head on, you see because you can't read the numbers from head on. It had the desired effect. Gleefully they watched as the couple dived for cover scattering the picnic gear all over the beach.  They RTB'd feeling pleased with themselves only to be met by a deputation as they taxyed in.
The CO had called the base, apparently he had been enjoying a lovely picnic on his day off at the beach with his lady wife when..................

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« Reply #27 on: February 19, 2003, 10:46:29 PM »
Heheh, quite a few years back my buddy was flying a Turbo Commander corporate for a meat packing company..

I flew second seat so he could get some "hood" time :D

We landed in Reno and the bosses all headed out to go hunting north in a yellow pickup saying "after you get up, come find us"

After lunch we took off and headed north at 6000 feet agl. You can REALLY pick out a yellow pickup at that altitude.

We came down the highway about 10 feet off the asphalt at 350 knots in a headon pass..

The farmworker bus behind them went off the road into the tumble weeds..

The skiers at Squaw Valley on imigrent on the way home ducked...

Upon landing at Reid Hillview in San Jose my bud asked permission for a high speed pass..

Granted :D

We did it on the deck, pulling up in a zoom to a 120 degree bank and threw out the gear...

When he switched to ground control the comment was "You were cleared for a high speed pass, not an airshow"

Good times, if ya have'nt jumped fences and chased cows at dawn in cool clear stable air it's the ultimate pucker factor..

Ya-ya's in a hot rod :D

Old times, good times..
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« Reply #28 on: February 19, 2003, 11:19:47 PM »
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Off topic but : Isnt the F4 Phantom the most beautiful plane. Why they have to retire it. At least the Luftwaffe it putting that bird to good use.


hehe Viper, you are a phantom lover :))
We have upgrated it also in greece with,
RPG-65, Amraams,hotas, avionics..
Our lovely grunpa have take new guts ;)
Maby you cant turn as f-16 or m-2000,
but with some good tactics and 8 amraams, you still can kick some bellybutton :)

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« Reply #29 on: February 20, 2003, 12:01:30 AM »
I protest! The Phantom IS beautiful. Thought so from the first time I saw one.  And it doesn't look in the slightest British.  To my eyes, it looks as if it came from that country renonwned for making military equipment of great functional beauty, full of that "you really DON'T want to not be my friend" look - Germany.

Ach, the Corsair's OK for a US plane... but so far as fighters go, I still love the good old Bf109 more. :-)

Esme