Author Topic: 1.08 is an interesting concept, but not for me (Read 1426 times)

Am0n · « **Reply #30 on:** October 08, 2001, 11:33:00 AM »

Im not going to jump in and start hammering on the "new game". im new to AH and i dont really have a right to gripe, ill let you vets do all that.

Besides, its very early in the stages of the release ive been a online gamer for many many years and i know these things come in waves. There will be updates and fixes for all things that need be.

One thing i will say is that i would like to see more "flak" hits and less direct shell hit, the idea of flak wasnt a direct hit but to be hit buy the flak that comes off the shell when it explodes. So far i have taken nothing but sustained hits that blow off large(inportant) portions of my AC.

I can handle some fragments hitting my craft when i fly over, thats realality when raiding a enemy base, but not every shot 100% on the money killing whole fleets of planes on impact.

Make the Flak, FLAK and not a cannon round.

[ 10-08-2001: Message edited by: Am0n ]

whirl · « **Reply #31 on:** October 08, 2001, 11:35:00 AM »

vulcan, thats 40 aaa's vs 6 aaa's. 40 would fill the sky with lead. 6 won't. thats cute, take the exception to the rule as an example? heh. i'm not going to argue with you about it then. suffice it to say, 40+ aab's will create quite a net for attack planes to avoid. 6 won't, period.

SKurj · « **Reply #32 on:** October 08, 2001, 01:29:00 PM »

We can't put 40aaa's up but a field in Aces should be just as tough a proposition therefore our 6 should shoot like them 40 +)

SKurj

Voss · « **Reply #33 on:** October 08, 2001, 01:50:00 PM »

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Originally posted by Midnight:

I don't think I understand you Voss. On one hand, ...

Now you are suggesting that enough of the enemy are giving up 12 hours of time just to sit in CV guns to prevent you from defending it while yet another takes the time to fly a bomber to it and sink it?

I don't know what made you think I said 12 hours, no! Think of it like this; they switched to Bishop just before logging out for the night. By the time they sleep eight hours, pet the dog, play with the wife, and have a good meal, they can log back in and defect home. I think certain operations need to be unavailable to recent defectees... like fleets, tuning private, etc.

At least, last night I was able to keep the fleets on station. I never have understood what makes people zig-zag a fleet all over the map, but it ain't happening on my shift!

Creamo · « **Reply #34 on:** October 08, 2001, 04:41:00 PM »

Hey, it was late when I posted that, and I had just returned from the heat of 10:1's for hours at a time (not to mention Creamo's B.S.).

Don't start a pissin match with me Toss. You went on for an hour how AH sucked, was FUBAR, 1,08 ruined everything, people were kamakazing your CV, you were going to quit, log out in disgust, and on and on and on. It was so bad it's the first time I EVER heard Mitsu actually make fun of someone, you.

I told you to go log out and cry a river like a popsicle or something similiar because the Green Channel doesn't need all that anti-AH crying.

Carry on.

DanielMcIntyre · « **Reply #35 on:** October 08, 2001, 06:02:00 PM »

Err LePaul, crying cause 1.08 has a few minor bugs, many that you mentioned now have been fixed btw, after all the screaming and crying for HTC to release 1.08 asap is kinda stupid. If you work for a software company then you should realise that with mass distribution on thousands of individual machines running different hardware and software combinations that bugs will pop up which did'nt manifest themselves on your test machines. Just common sense m8.

Don · « **Reply #36 on:** October 08, 2001, 06:40:00 PM »

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Originally posted by Tilt:
[QB]IMHO this new strat model is a considerable improvement in terms of game philosophy.
Placing more emphasis on logistics and their delivery to towns which support fields provides a far more varied yet IMHO realistic approach to the role of aircraft in a war environment.

Tilt:
I tend to agree and, without going into a long argument here, I recall another flight sim which caused it's own demise (IMO) by doing away with the strat system in favor of pleasing the masses. Strat made it interesting, and gave the side with fewer numbers an opportunity to make a dent in the enemies.
The MA now is just one huge gangbang day in and day out. The side which is getting ganged is having no fun, while the gangers (read vuchers) are having a ball.
With strat effects, the side with fewer numbers can use stealth, and provide an atmosphere of uncertainty, even to the sides with 82 plus players..."where and what are they gonna hit next? And how will we get hurt?" A sufficient alternative IMO, to the usual and commonplace gang banging which, to everyone on the side that is getting ganged would offer a way they can do something and compete. Right now they are merely targets for dweebs padding their stats

Voss · « **Reply #37 on:** October 08, 2001, 06:44:00 PM »

<sniff, sniff> I smell a squeak.

ET · « **Reply #38 on:** October 08, 2001, 06:47:00 PM »

MadBirdCZ
Thanks for the comeback.I'm still looking for a role a strat buff can do to help his country.In 1.07 if your country was trying to take a base,you could kill the ord.at nearest nme base and keep them from helping target base.Now when you kill stuff,its back up before you land.

Today I tried killing the ack at a radar factory and some of the buildings.I did.I landed and took a fighter to knock out the rest of it.Ten minute turn around.When I got back to the radar factory,everything,ack included,was back up.The resupply seems to be way overdone and I see the role of bombers diminished in the game as it stands now.

With that and the palm trees which kill GVs like they were made out of paper,I feel the game has more of a slant toward furballing instead of strategy.Don't try to take a M16 out at night with nme in the area.

However I know it will get straightened out in time so I am not complaining but just giving you my point of view on what I think needs work.Thats what this forum is for.
ET

Midnight · « **Reply #39 on:** October 08, 2001, 06:57:00 PM »

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Originally posted by Voss:
I don't know what made you think I said 12 hours, no! Think of it like this; they switched to Bishop just before logging out for the night. By the time they sleep eight hours, pet the dog, play with the wife, and have a good meal, they can log back in and defect home. I think certain operations need to be unavailable to recent defectees... like fleets, tuning private, etc.

ROFLMAO!

Even so, you are still suggesting that enough players are getting together, jumping sides and manning guns just to stop anyone else from defending the fleet. Even if they were to do it just before they logged off for the night.

LOL.. Now that is true dedication to teamwork and the country's eforts.

Hell.. when I am loggin off, I don't give a rat's bellybutton what happens in the arena, as I know that whatever it is, I won't see it and it will all be different the next time I log in anyway.

The whole theory you are implying is like terrorist tactics. Players willing to waste their virtual lives and time and never see the outcome...

eagl · « **Reply #40 on:** October 08, 2001, 11:15:00 PM »

I liked Voss' first post more. Oh no, please don't quit...

Creamo · « **Reply #41 on:** October 08, 2001, 11:41:00 PM »

I liked it more when he stared into his computer monitor and "sniffed a squeak."

I told him to take off his panties while playing.

It was a bad idea.

Voss · « **Reply #42 on:** October 09, 2001, 02:45:00 AM »

Neither of you interest me, so stop trying to be my squeak.

Voss · « **Reply #43 on:** October 09, 2001, 03:12:00 AM »

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Originally posted by Midnight:

ROFLMAO!

The whole theory you are implying is like terrorist tactics. Players willing to waste their virtual lives and time and never see the outcome...

Why should that surprise you? I have already stated that one individual (who is usually ranked at the top of you rooks) defected to do the same thing. I never really said that I knew rooks had defected to do this. I merely said I know Booky did this once, and asked you to think of it from a certain perspective. Given, that one man has done this, I recommend something be done to stop it from being repeated.

No one loses a life when the CV goes down, unless they are launching, or a suicidal moron dives into the ack to guarantee a hit. It just takes a few minutes more to take down the CV WITHOUT dying. Finding the CV is the hard part only when someone moves it to another area.

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Naudet · « **Reply #44 on:** October 09, 2001, 05:33:00 AM »

I dont know what is bad about the new strat system.

Field captures are easier and thats very good. Now u dot need a 10+ people army to take a field from 2-3 defenders.

1st time me and 2 squaddies could take some fields in a few sneak raids. Was big fun.

And now u actually need to defend ur scenes. u now can rely on the AI AA to save the field till a lone suicider decides to up and fight.

But still the 1 man field def is possible.
Ask urchin and lazer. They were together working on 26 with 1 or 2 buffs and a C47 helping em.
When i swooped in with my G10, i got lazer. forced one of the buffs to crash (still wondering how), turned and turned with urchin till i found their C47 and got it.
But that was no suicide def.
I saw that 26 was underpressure when i was on a long way trip behind the nme lines in the G10. I climbed to 10K and headed to 26, constantly scanninf for C47s. When i arrived at the base 26, C47 had yet not arrived. so i kept the guys busy and waited till i could bust the C47