1.08 is an interesting concept, but not for me

[bloom25]

I think it's worth mentioning that HTC only has 6 people in the whole company.  There is really no way they can bug test their software to the point that it is perfect with so few people available for testing within a reasonable timeframe.  I'm sure that the beta eliminated a lot of the bugs, but there were many that would have been impossible to see with the 1.07 engine.  I.e reset after field capture - 1.08 would have needed to be out to spot that one.  It's also worth mentioning that the trees could be turned off in the betas, and they weren't as tall, so the bomber issue (which has been fixed in short order) doesn't really surprise me.

Yes, there is a FPS hit which IMO might be a bug.  (It's not present on my system unless you exceed the altitude at which the clutter disappears and then descend.  After that there is a 10 - 20 fps hit. ) I'm waiting to see what the future patches will do.  As for the trees they look funny to me too; perhaps if there were a variety of tree shapes it randomly choose from it would look better?  Yes the fields are very easy to capture, but judging by the readme this was the opposite of what was intended, so maybe a future patch will make a change in this regard.  

My personal opinion on the subject is that in general the initial releases of most new versions of AH have had some bugs.  Within a day or two HTC has always made the game at least stable and then in the next couple weeks almost all of the minor bugs and quirks were fixed.  I personally find that after the final patch for a version is out that AH is probably the most stable game I've seen.    Bugs really do go hand in hand with 3d games, but what sets HTC apart is the rapid release of patches to fix issues as quickly as possible.

What it really boils down to is 1.08 is not finished people.  Give HTC time to patch it before jumping all over them.    (I'm not saying that was LePaul's intention, but the connotation of his posts could perhaps be taken as such.)

As for insulting someones spelling skills, that's pretty low IMO.    Personally I've found as an engineer that as more math knowledge comes in, spelling skills go out just as fast...  

[DanielMcIntyre]

I think LePaul is Bill Gates!!!! Watch him HT!!!!


Naw too Pompous <- noote speeling


lol

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loooooooooooool

BTW I once wrote a flawless tic tac toe program in TC 2.0. Yeeeerrrsh, incredible aint it.

 

[Rude]

LePaul....tsk tsk.

Ya know, one sign of success in business is to have choice in who you do business with and who you do not.

A certain individual at HTC is aware of my opinion regarding unproductive, maliced, ignorant(unaware of the facts) and unnecessary posting on this board.

As I have told him many times before, for those who offer nothing other than Whining and a poor attitude, I would push the button and send you on down the road!

For you to whine about and criticize this effort by HTC while paying only $14.95/month to play this sim, begs the following...

What in the world is wrong with you and how must you react to others you do business with when the cost of goods or services might exceed $14.95?

PUSH THE BUTTON!!!

[AKSWulfe]

Moose, they were in the final beta version.

LePaul, I'm not cheerleading. Of course, if I'm cheerleading- then you are simply whining.

Either way, I pointed out how you were incorrect in your presumptions and am told I'm waving pom-poms. Well, whatever makes you feel better.

Lets see, 2 days later all of your so-called obvious bugs are non-existent.

Oh I see, you couldn't play your half-baked strat game over the weekend and thus you came here looking for sympothy.
-SW

[Superfly]

Fish, I believe one of the new tree types is a Larch.    You will see them on the sfma terrain.

[Serapis]

I found the current update to be just fine, and much more bug free than most major software releases in the modern (post Win 95) world of computer gaming. What notable bugs (and oversights) that existed were fixed quickly.

Frame rates? Get used to it here and anywhere else short of online bingo. Or play 2d AW (for a few months more at least) on a P1 system.

Trees? A good start towards the day when we can have an actual "forest" layer.

New Strat? Let's see what happens. The universally old base grab concept (pop the flak, vulch the field and grab a goon) became lame as far as I was concerend when AW moved away from the central neutral bases concept a number of years ago. Hell, find a way to some of the non base capture strat models that have been proposed here and I will cheer. Frankly, has the game really changed all that much in a fundamental level? We'll have to see how the trains and convoys develop.

HTC is at least a company that is actually interested in its product quality as opposed to some of its competitors (and most all game software for that matter). You get the impression that HTC won't pump a load of crap out to try and make a short term buck because some investment group told them to release it or else.

ME262 -- the sky is falling, we're doomed, it sucks, elitist vulchers, blah blah blah... Hey, I kinda like the added excitement of seeing one around and wouldn't mind seeing more perk rides in the MA.

Isn't it time to put these issues aside and start squeaking about the Hurricane roll rate and control response  

RHA RAH RAH (pom poms waving in the wind)! WTG HTC -- keep it up. Or, just cash out to an EA type company and let the complainers see how bad it can get.

Charon

[ 10-10-2001: Message edited by: Charon ]

[highflyer]

If the AA is bugged, it isn't for 1 ping kills. It is for being able to shoot down fast moving A/C at extreme range yet not be able to hit a slow moving A/C right on top of it. That is a bug.

this is good..

[Staga]

Heh I'm using proggie which costs few hundred thousand dollars but IMHO its nothing but a pile of crap.

SAP R/3 anyone ?

[NATEDOG]

Where was I moaning or groaning? I was just trying to help the situation by explaining something. I'm not saying no one ever hit a tree, they just never told us...... and when the public hit a tree, and told us about it....... we fixed it.

<kicks the dead horse a few more times>

[straffo]

Originally posted by SUPERFLY:
Fish, I believe one of the new tree types is a Larch.      You will see them on the sfma terrain.

<click>
this is a larch
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this is a larch
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fan of the monty pythons too ?  

[batdog]

me like game. it gud


xBAT

[Thorns]

My Hat's off to HTC...finest WWII combat flightsim going.  Great support too  

And, I think I'll just go write some 3D code, oh wait...I think I'll go fly instead, the code is much too easy...hehe  

Thorns

[Dawvgrid]

,,,,,,,,And now no 1 the Larch,,,,,,the Larch
,,,,,,,,And now no 2 the Larch,,,,,,the Larch
etc etc etc etc,,,,,,

[Ramjet at Command HQ]

First off: Well done HTC team for bringing 1.08 to the Flt Sim Community. It looks like a great deal of work went into it and came out pretty stable. Thank you for the Mossie and Hurricane in particular. That Mossie feels sooooooo real, and I have been in one!

Cheese and wine Section: My imagination bubble bursts everytime I appraoch an enemy field!!   Despite high speed evasives, even at considerable distance, those acks hit and the aircraft falls apart...to be hit again and again....WOW!! even Phalanx systems would love this! This is 1939-45!

Cheerleading Section: LePaul, don't be a pompous , patronising twit, you give developers a bad name! FYI I was a Software Tester for the FAA/CAA Air Traffic Control system still in operation in the UK and USA. We still used to find bugs despite the very successful software service it has provided down the many years. Credit to HTC... a very slick update system, small, frequent and fast to give us, the community a great simulation game.

Ramjet
249 Sqdn RAF "Gold Coast"
Command HQ

[Jochen]

You either don't post under your flying handle, or don't fly here at all, so you will be ignored!

I am posting under my flying handle and I have flown in AH but I have been on vacation for few months.

You therefore must find betters reasons to ignore me.