Author Topic: New Zero (Read 543 times)

Weave · « **on:** June 13, 2000, 07:19:00 AM »

Anyone else notice the airspeed guage in the screen shot of the Zero cockpit? Is it just me or does anyone else think that 350 is overly fast for a Zero, even in a shallow dive? I would think that the wings or tail is just about ready to come off.

...Weave

Kieren · « **Reply #1 on:** June 13, 2000, 07:54:00 AM »

TAS? Nope. The A6M5 skin was thickened to allow it a much higher dive speed...

hitech · « **Reply #2 on:** June 13, 2000, 09:18:00 AM »

New level of whine alert. Complaning about a flight model before its written.

HiTech

Saintaw · « **Reply #3 on:** June 13, 2000, 09:21:00 AM »

ROFLOL !

Mickey1992 · « **Reply #4 on:** June 13, 2000, 09:25:00 AM »

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Originally posted by hitech:
New level of whine alert. Complaning about a flight model before its written.

I knew that was coming. :^)

Mickey

RAM · « **Reply #5 on:** June 13, 2000, 09:26:00 AM »

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Originally posted by hitech:
New level of whine alert. Complaning about a flight model before its written.

HiTech

HiTech...I hope it is ALREADY written

I dont want to wait for another week!!!

hehehehehe...

<RAM>----->wanting to put his hands over a 190A5

Fariz · « **Reply #6 on:** June 13, 2000, 09:29:00 AM »

Karnak · « **Reply #7 on:** June 13, 2000, 09:39:00 AM »

A6M5 series was capable of about 350 in level flight, let alone in a dive. The gauge is not inaccurate.

Sisu

Nash · « **Reply #8 on:** June 13, 2000, 09:41:00 AM »

I'm with Weave. I'm damn tired of lookin' over my shoulder to see overmodelled screenshots on my 6, where clearly, this would have been impossible... and I for one am NOT gonna stand for this bullsh#t any longer! Come on Beefcake, we're outta here.

Weave · « **Reply #9 on:** June 13, 2000, 03:54:00 PM »

Well pardon my ignorance. All the Zeros I've flown to date, in various sims were quite slow. Their handling was excellent which was a good thing as you couldn't run away from a gnat.
I happen to have that screen shot as wallpaper on my monitor cause I love the art work, just happened to notice the indicated speed, and thought it a bit on the tall side.
However having been properly educated by all you helpful folks I will look forward to chasing down a few "runstangs" with it.

...Weave

Karnak · « **Reply #10 on:** June 13, 2000, 04:28:00 PM »

Now Weave, I wouldn't go that far. The Mustang can do 437 in level flight. 350 is a far cry from 437.

A6M2 had a top level speed of about 310 to 320, that may be more what you were thinking of. In any case, a Zero can dive to more than 350, although I'd be nervous about taking an A6M2 to 400 or beyond. An A6M5 is quite noticably more poweful in the engine department and I would expect to get 425 to 450 out of it in a dive. Of course at those speeds the controls will be so heavy as to make the plane almost uncontrolable.

Sisu

gatt · « **Reply #11 on:** June 13, 2000, 04:30:00 PM »

Weave,
the Zeke in the pic is in shallow dive at 350mph IAS (420mph TAS). *Probably* at that speed she should not maneuver well. At least I hope so.

juzz · « **Reply #12 on:** June 14, 2000, 01:17:00 AM »

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In the pursuit of better combat capability (especially a higher diving speed), the 904th Reisen (an A6M3) was converted as a prototype for what was to become the A6M5 series. This project was supervised by engineer Mijiro Takahashi, who had taken over development of the Zero from Jiro Horikoshi so that the latter could concentrate on the J2M Raiden interceptor. The converted aircraft was fitted with a new set of wings with heavier gauge skin and with redesigned, non-folding rounded wingtips. The wingspan was reduced to 36 feet 1 1/16 inches and wing area to 229.3 square feet. The standard A6M3 armament of two 20-mm cannon and two 7.7-mm machine guns was retained, as were the two wing tanks and the Sakae 21 engine. However, new individual exhaust stacks were fitted to the cylinder heads, which added some residual thrust.

The first A6M5 flew in August of 1943. In spite of an increase in all-up weight of 440 pounds, the A6M5 was faster than the A6M3 Model 32, and could reach a maximum level speed of 351 mph at 19,685 feet.

More important, it could now be dived at speeds of up to 410 mph. It was rushed into production as the Navy Type 0 Carrier Fighter Model 52.

The Model 52 began to reach front line units in the autumn of 1943. It was immediately confronted by the new Grumman F6F Hellcat, which was slightly less maneuverable but which was much more strongly built, heavier armed, and better protected.

Would that be IAS? I assume so.

eye · « **Reply #13 on:** June 14, 2000, 01:27:00 AM »

The last models of the zero could dive to 450 mph. Specific parts of the wing skin were thickened. I cant wait to fly a zero at 30k and b and z people

With the increased lethality of all planes here it should be a good ride provided you fight with a alt advantage to start. Fighting any zero over your own field or near it will also be manditory.

Jochen · « **Reply #14 on:** June 14, 2000, 03:27:00 AM »

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New level of whine alert. Complaning about a flight model before its written.

Hey, you guys are improving fligh modeling fidelity all the time and we can't be any worse, hence the FM whine before we even fly the plane

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