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Offline Hortlund

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« Reply #15 on: February 14, 2003, 06:18:00 PM »
LOL too bad he has got me on his ignore list...shame, would have been fun to pick his post apart again.

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« Reply #16 on: February 14, 2003, 06:25:17 PM »
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Its a scary trend nowdays that anyone who disagrees = enemy. We even see it at home with Reps and Dems. They are no longer differing ideologies.


If a republican diasagrees with a democrat, a libertairian is not encouraged to rape his neigbors wife.

When diplomatic strength and resolve is required, France and Germany suddenly get weak knees. Saddam is encouraged to continue playing cat and mouse.

This has the hideous potential of costing even more lives. Every extra day that murdering dictator gets means a stronger better prepared iraq will be waiting to greet us... and just as dangerous.. gives the iraq's even more opportunity to distribute materials to his new AQ pals.

10 years of dodging inspectors, violating and defying UN mandates.. and france wants to give saddam more time because NOW iraq is 'willing'?

In the court of world opinion, we've lost... the world seems to want the inspections to continue. The question now is, do we do what we said we were gonna do, or do we fold our hand and wait while saddams people play 3 card montie with WMD?

I keep asking myself two questions..

1. What's the REAL reason behind old europes staunch defense of an inspection program that has 10 years of failure behind it?

2. Whats the middle east going to look like the day after we go into Iraq, with or without a UN mandate?
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« Reply #17 on: February 14, 2003, 06:29:38 PM »
I'm not sure what this thread is about (it was too long to read past the first two posts), but to resolve the issue I think we should carpet bomb Quebec.


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« Reply #18 on: February 14, 2003, 06:38:19 PM »


pictures instead of print?
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« Reply #19 on: February 14, 2003, 06:39:19 PM »
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I'm not sure what this thread is about (it was too long to read past the first two posts), but to resolve the issue I think we should carpet bomb Quebec.


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« Reply #20 on: February 14, 2003, 06:43:12 PM »
I got a better sceniaro for ya Udie..

A new U.N. resoultion to use force is vetoed by France, Belgium, Germany, Russia, and China... Instead they op for 50K peacekeepers to be sent forthwith into Iraq.

The U.S military is heisent to fire on the blue helmets so they stand around for a couple of more months.. Of course the pull out won't be broadcast on the news. This whole Iraq business will drop faster than Colombia coverage.

The '04 campaign rolls around and perhaps a mention or two is made of Bush's forgien policy... As well as the 600 billion that gone missing.. 300 billion surpluss plus the 300 billion he ran up on his credit card..

Next time you guys vote for a Republican President, PLEASE make sure he isn't a drunken moron.

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« Reply #21 on: February 14, 2003, 06:53:16 PM »
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I got a better sceniaro for ya Udie..

A new U.N. resoultion to use force is vetoed by France, Belgium, Germany, Russia, and China... Instead they op for 50K peacekeepers to be sent forthwith into Iraq.

The U.S military is heisent to fire on the blue helmets so they stand around for a couple of more months.. Of course the pull out won't be broadcast on the news. This whole Iraq business will drop faster than Colombia coverage.


Oh man. This has got to be the most retarded attempt at world politics analysis I have ever seen.

Why would the US not veto the blue helmets? Can you give me one reason?

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« Reply #22 on: February 14, 2003, 07:00:33 PM »
The US could veto blue helmets, Germany and Belgium cannot.

Did JFK ask for inspectors in 1962 Cuba?
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« Reply #23 on: February 14, 2003, 07:26:53 PM »
It's already part of 1441 Snortland.. the inspectors can have as many security forces in there as they want.. There's nothing for the US to veto.

Lets see 2.4 billion to get the troops out there.. another 3. or so billion to bring them home.. What's that nearly 6 billion for this little excercise.

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« Reply #24 on: February 14, 2003, 07:36:41 PM »
"Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty."

JFK inagural address
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« Reply #25 on: February 14, 2003, 10:29:46 PM »
Quote:"Next time you guys vote for a Republican President, PLEASE make sure he isn't a drunken moron."

Conversly, if you vote Democratic, try not to elect a lecherous liar.
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« Reply #26 on: February 14, 2003, 10:46:57 PM »
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"Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty."

JFK inagural address


I remember that address. It was so stirring at the time, so inspiring. It was going to be a new world of freedom for all.

Now, I look back on it as the first step on a road that led us to 9/11 and the WTC.
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« Reply #27 on: February 14, 2003, 10:49:31 PM »
What 10Bears overlooks is that without US troops in the area poised to attack....... there'd be NO cooperation with the inspectors, no matter how large the "security detail".

Dance around that all you like, but it's simple fact borne out by extremely recent history. That some have already forgotten.

In fact, if/when we pull out of the area, I'll wager the inspectors get their walking papers out of Iraq within 30 days of us clearing the region.
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« Reply #28 on: February 14, 2003, 11:01:58 PM »
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I remember that address. It was so stirring at the time, so inspiring. It was going to be a new world of freedom for all.


It was.

It is.

It will be.

It is our destiny to do this.. we all swore on that day that these words would be the standard of purpose that all free nations should aspire to. That we would stand and serve, that we would come when called. We cannot have not come this far only to lose our way now.

Lets roll!
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« Reply #29 on: February 14, 2003, 11:15:19 PM »
Hang, the primary lesson I took from VietNam was that no nation can make another nation "free". They have to want it for themselves.

Look how long this despot has ruled and ruined the lives of the Iraqi population. Yet apparently none, or at least not enough, of them want to be free badly enough to water the tree of Liberty.

And you can't water it for them. You can try but as soon as your gone your sacrifice will be wasted.

For those of you who find this an obscure reference, it's from Thomas Jefferson.
If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!