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Hengist

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I just heard about Padlock in AH
« on: July 27, 2000, 03:54:00 PM »
This was the only thing stopping me from signing up. As soon as it's available the plastic will be coming out and an account will be created

Since the AW days I've been waiting for a good online sim to implement padlock. I'm sure this will attract more ACE fantastic fliers like myself  

Cya soon Cav, GB and Maddog  


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Offline Westy

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I just heard about Padlock in AH
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2000, 03:57:00 PM »
 Hengist! Long time no see.

 Where's Pasha?????

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Hengist

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« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2000, 04:38:00 PM »
Hi Westy,

Looks like I'll be seeing you again real soon.

Shhh, Pasha is now working as a traffic warden  

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Offline 214thCavalier

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I just heard about Padlock in AH
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2000, 05:01:00 PM »
Hi Hengy it would be good to have us all back together again  

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I hear Monica misses ya  

Hengist

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I just heard about Padlock in AH
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2000, 05:36:00 PM »
Also looking forward to it Cav,

It's about time we showed these fixed view popsicle's what the old boys can do with this new fangled padlock contraption  

Apologies to all fixed view popsicle's. Just because it takes less skill to use fixed views, that's no reason for me to call you all popsicle's, lol  

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-towd_

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I just heard about Padlock in AH
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2000, 10:06:00 PM »
and yall give me toejam for cussin?

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I just heard about Padlock in AH
« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2000, 10:07:00 PM »
it was a joke

mavric

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I just heard about Padlock in AH
« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2000, 10:40:00 PM »
Padlock views?

I hope it isn`t the kind that do your SA for you.


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« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2000, 02:57:00 AM »
Oh no, another Crap Pilot!  

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« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2000, 07:02:00 AM »
Yes certainly looks like they are piling the Crap-pilots up again now  

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Offline Ripsnort

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« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2000, 08:16:00 AM »
Padlock=Crutch
You may even qualify for disability payments from our Gov't !  

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Offline jedi

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« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2000, 10:19:00 AM »
Padlock doesn't HAVE to be a crutch, nor does it, IMO, necessarily provide any great advantage in a fight.  Two things I don't like about padlocks:

1) By focusing your attention continously on that small 90-degree FOV that follows your target around, you actually LOSE considerable SA about the orientation of your plane.  In a real plane, you have plenty of aural, visual, and tactile cues as to what your plane is doing, which way is up, and where the ground is.  With padlock, you can be pointed straight at the ground, going 500 mph, with the bogie padlocked visible against the sky in the top of your canopy, and have NO clue about where the ground is until you smack it.  Using keys or hat switches to follow the bogey around actually ENHANCES your OVERALL SA because simply by being "in command" of the view switching, you know where the bogey is in relation to your plane.  With padlock, you have to wait for the bogey to be "in screen" with a familiar piece of airframe to get that same info.  To me, following the bogey with the views is an intrinsic part of computer sim ACM, i.e. a skill worth having.

2) You don't actually have to "see" a target to engage padlock.  Suppose, someday, icons are reduced to a point where you actually have to be close to a target to see it, and camoflage actually becomes somewhat useful (i.e. the neon crutch is taken away).  If you suspect a bogey is around somewhere, all you need to do is cycle through your views, select padlock, and the padlock will FIND him for you, right?  Maybe that's no factor NOW, when every plane already has a big "shoot me" sign overhead, but presumably someday you guys are going to want an arena with icons visible only at short range, or no icons at all.  Padlock will completely short circuit that.  It'll just become standard procedure in combat to sweep your views every few seconds and hit padlock to find any targets THEORETICALLY "in view," as opposed to those you actually DO see.

Now, maybe if you make it required to actually "mouse click" on the target you want to padlock, that might work, but that's hard to do in combat.  Once the padlock is actually engaged, I don't see it as a crutch tho.  It's very easy to follow a target in a real plane once you acquire him.  No reason to FORCE guys to use the keys.

A more interesting question, tho, is, "Why now?"  This is the hottest issue to handle right now?  I can think of about 5 things that keep me from signing up, and lack of padlock isn't even in my top 10 wish list items.  Can EZ-mode in the arena be far behind?  

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« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2000, 10:28:00 AM »
Jedi, after 5 things are addressed, IMO you'd find 5 others to keep you from enjoying this fine sim.  No offense, its just that some people can't be pleased!  

If you really think about it, when you signed up for WB's (I'm guessing around V1.11?) it lacked half of the things that AH has  currently, and AH has passed up WB's by a long shot, with exception to the arena's....so what is it that you want again?  

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Offline CavemanJ

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« Reply #13 on: July 28, 2000, 10:49:00 AM »
Hengist.... now where have I heard that handle before.....

hmmm.. less skill to use fixed view...  lessee... hit a button once and not worry about having to track the target anymore... or no button and having to move your views around to track the target in addition to checking 6 and glancing at the dash to maintain good SA
I'd say the no skill is the padlock  

And Cav, how come you ain't flying with us?  One of these days I'm gonna really bug Widow for a little webspace  

Offline Karnak

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« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2000, 11:21:00 AM »
CavemanJ,
someone who uses padlock like you descibe is going to be toast.  They are going to fixate on the target and get killed by someone else.

That being the case, what is it about padlock that scares you?

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