Author Topic: Largest Peaceful Demonstration in British History... (Read 1833 times)

Pongo · « **Reply #60 on:** February 15, 2003, 05:21:33 PM »

Imagine if Americans cared so much about the freedom of the people in their central american puppet states. Where demonstrations have been routinely answered with torture and death squads.
But those are "good" torturers.

If the US will condone shuch acts for the sake of a bannana crop..what will they do for a big chunk of the earths oil.
If Sadam was willing to play US ball. He would still be a neccesary evil..And have the suppor of the US and its press.But since he is not. 100s of thousands of Iraqis must die to oust him.
That is all this is about. Not freedom. Not any threat to the US. But US control of that oil.
Its just how the world and people work. We make weapons to use them to get what we want.

blitz · « **Reply #61 on:** February 15, 2003, 05:26:18 PM »

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Originally posted by Pongo
Imagine if Americans cared so much about the freedom of the people in their central american puppet states. Where demonstrations have been routinely answered with torture and death squads.
But those are "good" torturers.

If the US will condone shuch acts for the sake of a bannana crop..what will they do for a big chunk of the earths oil.
If Sadam was willing to play US ball. He would still be a neccesary evil..And have the suppor of the US and its press.But since he is not. 100s of thousands of Iraqis must die to oust him.
That is all this is about. Not freedom. Not any threat to the US. But US control of that oil.
Its just how the world and people work. We make weapons to use them to get what we want.

You hit the nail at the top.

Amen

Regards Blitz

Iraq is threathening USA in no way, it's just plain redicuolous but Saudi Arabia whith all their hitchhikers joining WTC massacra ....but whait,these democrats are our allies...

Hangtime · « **Reply #62 on:** February 15, 2003, 05:28:21 PM »

Thank you Dowding!!

Been scrolling thru it.. interesting... but none of it seems to be included anywhere in Powells address.

Did I miss something?

Hangtime · « **Reply #63 on:** February 15, 2003, 05:31:03 PM »

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Not any threat to the US. But US control of that oil.

roadkill x2 pongo. If we wanted oil, we can steal it from you and mexico a hell of a lot easier than we can steal it from Iraq.

Aside from anti-us retoric, you got some FACTS to offer?

Toad · « **Reply #64 on:** February 15, 2003, 05:33:46 PM »

Pongo, which are "our" South American "puppet states"?

Second question, what exactly are we making them do? What strings are we pulling to get which reaction?

Lastly, how would CANADA get rid of the repressive regimes in South America? I know you folks don't believe in force, so how would you do it?

Thanks.

beet1e · « **Reply #65 on:** February 15, 2003, 06:08:00 PM »

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Originally posted by blitz
Ahoi beetle,

it's the embargo that causes iraque children to die.Regards Blitz

No No No No NO................ During tonight's Ch4 news, Tony Benn (liberal/lefty pacifist) came face to face with the pro-war Iraqi woman. He said what you said - the santions were what was killing the children.

And the Iraqi woman interrupted Tony Benn, and said "No, it's not the sanctions that are killing Iraqis. It's SADDAM that's doing the killing" Stick that in your curved pipe and smoke it! Hehe, no need - we will discuss this over 6 beers out of your beer cooler at the Eurocon.

blitz · « **Reply #66 on:** February 15, 2003, 06:21:49 PM »

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Originally posted by beet1e
No No No No NO................ During tonight's Ch4 news, Tony Benn (liberal/lefty pacifist) came face to face with the pro-war Iraqi woman. He said what you said - the santions were what was killing the children.

And the Iraqi woman interrupted Tony Benn, and said "No, it's not the sanctions that are killing Iraqis. It's SADDAM that's doing the killing" Stick that in your curved pipe and smoke it! Hehe, no need - we will discuss this over 6 beers out of your beer cooler at the Eurocon.

Ahoi beetle,

a few days ago i read a statement by a german civil servant who was workin for Un tryin to keep that embargo up.
He did it from 1998 till 2000 than dismissed, because he saw what that embargo did to iraq people.

Regards Blitz

Hangtime · « **Reply #67 on:** February 15, 2003, 06:28:56 PM »

The embargo did not work Blitz, because Germany And France decided to circumvent it by propping up saddam with arms for oil.

Prove me wrong.

blitz · « **Reply #68 on:** February 15, 2003, 06:47:03 PM »

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Originally posted by Hangtime
The embargo did not work Blitz, because Germany And France decided to circumvent it by propping up saddam with arms for oil.

Prove me wrong.

Not sure what ya refering to hang.

Plese give me time period and event, plse.

Regards Blitz

btw I'm not thinkin Germany or France is any better than USA.
Got no idea why we against war all of a sudden.

Yeager · « **Reply #69 on:** February 15, 2003, 07:13:35 PM »

Blitz, you openly supported Saddam Hussein today. You used your right to demonstrate in support of a man who would have you tortured and killed for doing the same in his country.
You demonstrated a severe disrespect and contempt towards all people in uniform in all free nations who have volunteered to protect your right to excercise that very freedom.

Hows it feel?

Are there any people of Germany who have any sense of debt to the freedom they enjoyed today?

blitz · « **Reply #70 on:** February 15, 2003, 07:32:19 PM »

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Originally posted by Yeager
Blitz, you openly supported Saddam Hussein today. You used your right to demonstrate in support of a man who would have you tortured and killed for doing the same in his country.
You demonstrated a severe disrespect and contempt towards all people in uniform in all free nations who have volunteered to protect your right to excercise that very freedom.

Hows it feel?

Are there any people of Germany who have any sense of debt to the freedom they enjoyed today?

Ahoi yeager,

i don't have any special respect for people in uniforms.
Have great respect for people in uniform who don't hand over their heads at the entrance of the barracks, tho.
Civilians in uniforms who keep thinkin although in arms.
There are no targets, it's people you are destroyin , better get rid of.'My officer told me to...'

Regards Blitz

Remember a documentation on american women who wanted to be a soldier. Cammera team joined them over some month. Called ' Women Soldiers'
Wasn't that nice, they tried to break people.
At the very end of that documentation an officer, responcible for them new cadets, sittin alone in an room is ask by the crew if he can love at all and this folk just said:' Can't,lost it in Vietnam'.

Nearly cried for him, it's a shame.

Holden McGroin · « **Reply #71 on:** February 15, 2003, 07:46:05 PM »

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Originally posted by blitz

i don't have any special respect for people in uniforms.

Hmm

blitz · « **Reply #72 on:** February 15, 2003, 08:05:42 PM »

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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
Hmm

Ya caught me

Talkin of people in uniforms with arms except policemen.

Regards Blitz

America is threathened by Iraq in no way.

Hangtime · « **Reply #73 on:** February 15, 2003, 08:10:33 PM »

Blitz is treatened with a brain in no way.

blitz · « **Reply #74 on:** February 15, 2003, 08:22:42 PM »

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Originally posted by Hangtime
Blitz is treatened with a brain in no way.

That was under your dignity , sorry Sir.

Regards Blitz

America is threathened by Iraq in no way, it's rediculous.