Poll: Was the weekend protests "Anti-War"..."Anti-Bush"...or "Anti-American

[blitz]

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[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by blitz
Ahoi Rips,

could have been very easy for us to join the party and get a big part of the cake.



Regards Blitz

I might add Blitz, that Germany has repeatedly said it opposes war and will not sanction any new U.N. resolution legitimising the use of force, but a joint declaration it made with France and Russia last week noted military action could not be ruled out.

Be aware of that.

[blitz]

Originally posted by Ripsnort
I might add Blitz, that Germany has repeatedly said it opposes war and will not sanction any new U.N. resolution legitimising the use of force, but a joint declaration it made with France and Russia last week noted military action could not be ruled out.

Be aware of that.

I'm not very confident how foolish and clumsy Gerhard Schroeder( never liked him anyways) acted  in the last months but bush and his crew aren't any better, and that's for nearly a year now


Regards Blitz

[10Bears]

So Grunherz, what is the opposite of  intelligentsia?

[Naso]

I'll say a little of all the above.

I this type of protests, like in the anti-global ones there are many components, and is too easy to generalize.

A generalization can satisfy a professional hater like Grun or Hort, but not someone that ask himself questions.

So, there are "anti-war", "anti-this-war", "anti-bush", "anti-USA", anti-anything", "let's-have-fun", "I-dont-know-why-but-i-protest", and so on...

In Rome they amounted 3 million people. Almost.

A big number, anyway... a record afaik.

They are all dumb idjots commi gay studmuffingot sobs??

I dont know, I dont know them personally.

But they disagree, and have the right to express it, and maybe this was the only way they had to do it, since the media (all of them in Berlusconi's hands) here are ALL pro-war.

[Monk]

Thats a good point, I think 3/4 were, what I would call "Profi" protesters.

They protest against anything.

[Manedew]

It's hardly just anti-Bush ... he's just the figure head of this twisted  ... orginaztion.  I'm more like an anti-2-party-goverment kind of guy .... which I've been long before Bush was in office.   I just can't trust the Democratic/Republican state. I know too much history.

Go be happy in your fear, nourish it .. one day it will be a Brave New World.  That's the cost of "safety"

Let us not throw the first punch...

Oh ya, frist time I protested was Sat. and it was about the war

[Ripsnort]

Just curious, how many of you think the Protest turn out would have been the same if this was Bosnia, and Bosnia had hidden oil capacity as Iraq does, and it was the Clinton admin?

I, for one, think there would not have been any protests.

[midnight Target]

I seem to recall a great deal of anti-war protest occurring during a particular Democratic administration.

I think these were anti-war / anti-Bush policy protests.

I also happen to think the protesters are wrong... go figure huh?

[Frogm4n]

could you imagine clinton going to war without the support of the UN? or even popular support for that matter? bush is an idiot and i for one dont trust him, but then he isnt really the one in charge. just like reagan wasnt.

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by midnight Target
I seem to recall a great deal of anti-war protest occurring during a particular Democratic administration.

I think these were anti-war / anti-Bush policy protests.

I also happen to think the protesters are wrong... go figure huh?

Well, here's what gets me... I think the protestors REASONS are wrong..they think its oil, they think its power, they don't believe that the people in Iraq suffer from this regrime(yet 99% of all U.S. Iraqi's will tell you differently).  I have no problem with the freedom to demonstrate, just have a good foundation of why you protest. They say "I'm against war" yet they demonstrate against the US foreign policy saying we want power and oil...(shakes head).

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by Frogm4n
but then he isnt really the one in charge. just like reagan wasnt.

But Clinton WAS?

Incidently, I don't believe we should go to war without UN approval either..but then again, if we go in alone and find WMD, who's gonna look like an idiot?

[-tronski-]

Originally posted by Dowding
Another rant, Grunherz? Based around roadkill and self-comforting fallacies, as per usual.

You'll find that the people on the British demos came from all walks of life, and of all political persuasions. War veterans, working class, middle class, bringing along their families, people who'd never protested against anything before. You tell me, Grunherz, what brings all these people together? These are people who go from day to day, paying for the house and car and getting on with their lives - they don't have an "arrogant sense of intellecual superiority and moral rationality". That makes me chuckle, you hysterical buffoon.

That is an accurate discription of the Australian protesters last weekend, but no-one calls us gutless?

Must be a special anti-euro thing.

 Tronsky

[CyranoAH]

There was a poll result here in Spain today regarding why were people demonstrating (more than 3 million here in Spain).

Most people (like 85% or so) didn't believe that demonstrating against Bush Jr's intent to go to war meant going against the USA.

Most people were against the idea of war being the only solution and didn't want the involvement of Spain in this war unless there was a UN resolution stating the necessity of a military action.

IMO, no one (perhaps a very small minority) is against the USA here.

Daniel

[Duedel]

No, I dont think there where any Anti-American demonstrators. There where only anti US-Government demonstrators and I salute them. Why?
Cause I dont like ANY instance that tries to force his opinion upon someone. This is a kind of dictatorship and as a german i hate dictatorship. All the foreign policy diplomatic culture was lost as Mr. Bush and his vassels where elected.