Poll: Was the weekend protests "Anti-War"..."Anti-Bush"...or "Anti-American

[Hortlund]

Who the he** is "Gerhard Lauck"?

[moot]

NSDAP/AO ?

[Hortlund]

Originally posted by moot
NSDAP/AO ?

huh?

[moot]

Ok you don't know that guy, Mikael Jansson?

[Hortlund]

Originally posted by Naso
A generalization can satisfy a professional hater like Grun or Hort, but not someone that ask himself questions.

A professional hater incapable of asking himself questions?

I have yet to see you argue a point successfully Naso..is that the reason for the personal attacks?

[Hortlund]

Originally posted by moot
Ok you don't know that guy, Mikael Jansson?

wtf are you on drugs?

We have almost 9 million inhabitants you know...so you'll have to excuse me if I dont know them all.

Maybe you had a point to all this...?

[moot]

Yeah I had a point but if you need a magnifying glass to see it it's probably like you said once about not being explainable if needed asked.
The first sentence was the same point as the second sentence which paraphrased it into swedish context, as the first one paraphrased a french context.

Gerhard Lauck was(~95 or sth)/is leader of some swedish NS party, somewhat like Mikael Jansson who's SD party made something like 1% of the votes over there.

[Duedel]

Originally posted by Rude
Foreign policy diplomatic culture? Oh, is that where we all stand around and kiss each others rear ends and everything stays the same? Is that the land of no tough choices?

There's a time and a place for diplomacy. This is not the time nor the place.

So u think its time for what? War? A war where no one can tell what'll happen after it? Rude do u really think u can tell when its time for war or diplomacy?

If the UN say yes than u can have ur war. But until than i would suggest the USA calm down and dont act like a big imperialist. Cause that may cause hate arround the world and i guess thats not what u want.

[moot]

But until than i would suggest the USA calm down and dont act like a big imperialist. Cause that may cause hate arround the world and i guess thats not what u want.

then you are told:

Nothing unnerves the gutless Euro chattering inteligensia than a plain spoken, down to earth american leader with a strong sense of purpose and a will to carry it out. That man is esentially foreign to them and they hate him. Moreover they look down upon him as lacking in intelligence and kindness, which of course merely reflects their trumped up arrogant sense of intellecual superiority and moral rationality - however these are only masks for their truer, deeper, more profound, and ultimately fundemental resentment rising from a sense of impotence to and dependence on american power.

[Hortlund]

Originally posted by moot
Yeah I had a point but if you need a magnifying glass to see it it's probably like you said once about not being explainable if needed asked.
The first sentence was the same point as the second sentence which paraphrased it into swedish context, as the first one paraphrased a french context.

Gerhard Lauck was(~95 or sth)/is leader of some swedish NS party, somewhat like Mikael Jansson who's SD party made something like 1% of the votes over there.

wow...you know more about Swedish extreme right organizations than I do.

Anyway, I think there is a difference between saying all Swedes are like some neo nazi who has less than 0.05% popular support, and saying all French are like Chiraq who has something like 80-90% popular support in this issue.

[moot]

1) those % numbers are from opinion polls, no comment needed on this.
2) even if they opt (not prefer) to give "voice" to Chirac it doesn't mean they wouldnt give their voice to another if there was one. remember the last french presidentials weren't exactly a choice after the first turn, nor a real poll of the whole population when you look at the vote distribution and >importantly abstention numbers at the first turn.

and edit btw the guy got not .05 but 1% of voices.

edit of the edit: anyway the point wasn't numbers but putting french population in the same bag as chirac // americans in the same bag as Bush ( -> burning JWBush effigies in protests) // putting a leader as perfect representation of all the country's people.

edit of the edit of the edit: the real point of 2) was originally that even if you give "support" in an opinion poll it also doesn't show anything but a forced yes or no.

[blitz]

Originally posted by Saurdaukar
This is what we do to anti-AMERICAN protestors in this country.  

Bash their cars, beat 'em up, hang 'em if nothing other helped.

That's what i call the right of free speech.


Regards Blitz



America is threathened by Iraq in no way, it's just plain rediculous

[blitz]

Originally posted by Hortlund
Who the he** is "Gerhard Lauck"?

Gerry Lauck is an american  Nazi guy spending all his time to deny Holocaust and sending his nazi propaganda material to europe neo nazi scum. Livin in Nebraska if i recall it right.


Regards Blitz