Author Topic: Switzerland... (Read 1117 times)

Kirin · « **on:** February 20, 2003, 09:43:48 AM »

... denies overfly rights to US military flights! As long there is no UN resolution that says different.

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Oh, and we won't allow Saddam to enter our borders! So no exile for him at lake geneva.

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That's what I call neutrality.

Does that mean you will boycot swiss products - well, bad luck for you - mmmh chocolate!

SLO · « **Reply #1 on:** February 20, 2003, 09:47:09 AM »

as to be expected from the Swiss....nothing new there:D

Ripsnort · « **Reply #2 on:** February 20, 2003, 09:52:31 AM »

Saddam has placed his Defense Minister under house arrest to prevent any coups, so I doubt he's even considering exile. He'll do what Hitler did if we get close. Sacrifice his people by surrounding himself with them, then kill himself.

SLO · « **Reply #3 on:** February 20, 2003, 09:55:18 AM »

your probably right Rip...but he does have options tho...like some other muslim country he could choose....

Maverick · « **Reply #4 on:** February 20, 2003, 12:59:38 PM »

As long as the swiss are able to maintain secret accounts and horde riches deposited by rather unpleasant people why SHOULD they get involved. They profit from the "neutrality".

How much interest was accrued on the trasures stolen from the Jews by Nazi Germany???? And just how many decades did it take to get a portion of it returned?????

Yep that's taking the high moralistic road there.

hawk220 · « **Reply #5 on:** February 20, 2003, 01:11:01 PM »

no overfly rights? sheesh.. you can DRIVE thru the country in no time.. how long would it take to fly around in a B2?

miko2d · « **Reply #6 on:** February 20, 2003, 01:29:07 PM »

Mav,

I agree with you on many things but here you are just showing your ignorance. The tradition of armed neutrality in Switzerlans goes back centuries...

It may be hard to imagine for a citizen of a country who's political direction changes every 2 to 4 years and history (if such pitifully short term could be called so) gets rewritten every few years according to the recent Politically Correct philosophy. That is true nevertheless.

Swiss would have fought nazis and they would have fought allies or any other trespasser in both world wars. They screwed up by refusing to let in refuge jews - which they admit - but so refused US, England and other countries. There is such thing as culture and historical heritage and swiss is a prime example of that.
They are not angels and have as much crookery and sinfull behavior as any other country but when the neutrality was conceived centuries ago, banking gains were not the top of their concerns.

miko

funkedup · « **Reply #7 on:** February 20, 2003, 01:32:18 PM »

Wow I'm surprised they won't let Saddam into the country. Imagine that - the Swiss passing up a chance to profit off the blood money of a genocidal dictator. They really have changed!

Kirin · « **Reply #8 on:** February 20, 2003, 04:41:52 PM »

Well, at least we didn't put him in his position and supported him for that many years just to fight some other people who we even disliked more...

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BTW, how did the US pay/refund for what they did to the native americans or african black for that matter...

It took some time but Switzerland, being no aggressor at all in that particular war (or any other - ok, they were mercs back in the dark age), worked up its history (in a huge effort) and payed the victims of another nations aggression respect and money. They took in Jewish refugees at the beginning stopped it when they couldn't take anymore and it became too dangerous.
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-tronski- · « **Reply #9 on:** February 20, 2003, 04:49:20 PM »

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Originally posted by Kirin
Well, at least we didn't put him in his position and supported him for that many years just to fight some other people who we even disliked more...

Now...That is a come back.....

Tronsky

Vulcan · « **Reply #10 on:** February 20, 2003, 05:15:29 PM »

Maybe the US should use trains instead of planes?

-tronski- · « **Reply #11 on:** February 20, 2003, 05:18:11 PM »

I would not like them on a train
I would not like them on a plane
I would not like them here or there
I would not like them anywhere
I do not like Green eggs and Ham
I do not like them Sam I am

Tronsky

lazs2 · « **Reply #12 on:** February 21, 2003, 10:05:46 AM »

I like my Omega watch.
lazs

SLO · « **Reply #13 on:** February 21, 2003, 10:19:55 AM »

didn't Bush say something along the lines:

There is NO neutrality....you are either for us or against us.....

so my swiss cheese friends....your gonna have to decide....oh my !!! that might be hard...takin sides:D

Curval · « **Reply #14 on:** February 21, 2003, 10:20:16 AM »

Who the hell would WANT to fly in Swiss airspace anyway? Planes tend to crash into each other there due to toejamty radar facilities.