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Offline Rude

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« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2003, 03:56:27 PM »
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Rude, please be kind enough to inform the 412th where you will be flying when requested. My 20K Mustang will be happy to show your 5K Mustang why that is a bad idea.


Well.....just ask and I'll tell ya:)

I have no fear whatsoever of higher and faster bandits....as a matter of fact, most of the 13th TAS will voluntarily give ya their six....and remember, boring us to death by non-engagement, is not really a legitimate kill:)
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« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2003, 03:57:20 PM »
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Nice to see the "old and slow" guys having fun along with the rest of us.


The rest of us? Pot callin the kettle black:)
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Offline Hornet

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« Reply #17 on: February 20, 2003, 04:13:30 PM »
lol dont get revved
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Re: Re: There's No Place Like Home
« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2003, 04:26:04 PM »
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Rude, please be kind enough to inform the 412th where you will be flying when requested. My 20K Mustang will be happy to show your 5K Mustang why that is a bad idea.



Guess that is why you guys never got in the squad vs. squad tourny.
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« Reply #19 on: February 20, 2003, 07:33:54 PM »
Well that sucks..

Those were some great fights..
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« Reply #20 on: February 20, 2003, 07:53:57 PM »
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Guess that is why you guys never got in the squad vs. squad tourny.


Hmmmmmmm, a clear shot accross the bow of the 412th, a clear shot!
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Offline Toad

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« Reply #21 on: February 20, 2003, 08:08:16 PM »
Boys, boys boys.

I think it's sweet that the 412th is offering to just throw away nearly 10 minutes of climbing just to plummet down and try to bore us to death.

And think of the RISK they're taking! That whole time they're out of 20k for the deck, enemy planes could be getting ABOVE them!

Yikes! Triple YIKES!

Show some respect for their valor, please.
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« Reply #22 on: February 21, 2003, 12:09:43 AM »
If anyone has come across me in the MA you'll know that not all 412th spend their flying time in the stratosphere.  Then again, most of the 412th pile-its seem to end up getting kills and being killed on the deck, so they must come down occasionally too.  I guess there is a difference between entering a fight from high alt and staying at high alt to avoid a fight, some just don't care to make that distinction, especially here on the BBS.

Come to think of it, I don't think I've ever managed to be above a 13th TAS'er though, they always seem to be bnz'ing from orbit... :p
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« Reply #23 on: February 21, 2003, 12:32:45 AM »
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Guess that is why you guys never got in the squad vs. squad tourny.


You are correct. I do not, nor will I attempt to claim that I can fight effectively in 1-v-1 or 4-v-4 duels or other such fixed engagements.

Case in point.

Rude and I did 3 duels tonight. Both in P-51D, 25%, merge 5K. Result : Rude 3, Midnight 0.

Aftwards in the MA, 412th met up with 13th over Bish controlled territory at A25.
Result : Midnight 2, Rude 0.
Overall results (IIRC) : 412th 5, 13th 2

(And just for the record, most of the fighting started well above 5K.. about 12 to 16K IIRC) :)

Overall, I must admit that Rude (probably all 13th) can turn-fight pretty damn good. I don't turn-fight well at all, and that's why I prefer E advantage over turn advantage.
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« Reply #24 on: February 21, 2003, 06:23:01 AM »
Yeah, that was a nice vultch you got on me there. Another 15 seconds, I'd have been airborne too. Could've counted as and A2a kill then.
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« Reply #25 on: February 21, 2003, 08:13:45 AM »
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Yeah, that was a nice vultch you got on me there. Another 15 seconds, I'd have been airborne too. Could've counted as and A2a kill then.


Hehe.. you got me there Toad. But hey, I wasn't expecting a 13th guy to be rolling a Typhoon from a field that had 412th Mustangs over it. I figured your Typhoon to be just another poor shmo that didn't know any better....

..Oops..

you were :D
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« Reply #26 on: February 21, 2003, 08:34:28 AM »
Good fights last nite.

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Case in point.

Rude and I did 3 duels tonight. Both in P-51D, 25%, merge 5K. Result : Rude 3, Midnight 0.

Aftwards in the MA, 412th met up with 13th over Bish controlled territory at A25.
Result : Midnight 2, Rude 0.
Overall results (IIRC) : 412th 5, 13th 2

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What were the odds in these fights?  I remember them being 5 v 2 and 6 v 3.  You guys are good at what you do but coming in with alt. and numbers does not prove much.  

Just the way I see it.
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« Reply #27 on: February 21, 2003, 08:45:37 AM »
Rude,
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I got back in the Mustang


That explains it then.....

I check my six...all clear

check again...still clear

one more time....clear

pings, explosion

message,
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System: Rude has shot you down....again ;)
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« Reply #28 on: February 21, 2003, 09:09:53 AM »
I've been expanding my horizons. Coach always hands me my heinie thinly sliced with a spicy mayonnaise when I meet him in his Tiff. No matter what I'm flying.  Figured it's about time I learned more about it.

I like upping at capped fields. The kills you get are much sweeter. Getting 3-4 of the vultchers is like winning the Superbowl, but even one is nice. If you get shot down before you get the gear in the wells...... well, so?  I'd hope somebody with tons of E could manage a vultch of an aircraft on the ground.

I guess I could have upped a sector a way and climbed and climbed and finally got there and then I'd probably only have been 8K below you by that time.

But I fall asleep so easily on those type flights.

I'll take capped fields over that anytime.

Just my .02, ymmv.
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« Reply #29 on: February 21, 2003, 11:10:43 AM »
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Good fights last nite.

What were the odds in these fights?  I remember them being 5 v 2 and 6 v 3.  You guys are good at what you do but coming in with alt. and numbers does not prove much.  

Just the way I see it.


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...If you get shot down before you get the gear in the wells...... well, so?  I'd hope somebody with tons of E could manage a vultch of an aircraft on the ground.

I guess I could have upped a sector a way and climbed and climbed and finally got there and then I'd probably only have been 8K below you by that time.


LOL.. now you guys are making me laugh.

Milo, I don't know the exact odds, but it swayed both ways throughout the fights. There was 4 of the 412th and 3 of the 13th TAS, however mix in various other Rooks, Bish and the occasional Knight (we shot down 2 knight F4Us at one point) and there was no outnumbering going on.

Toad, you had gear up.. not by much, but they were up. I don't like to vulch planes still on the ground. With .50s, all that ends up happening is parts fall off and the guy gets out safe. You need to have those HE cannons to get the pilot kills on the ground.
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