Author Topic: Time for a second MA? (Read 1634 times)

Shane · « **Reply #45 on:** February 24, 2003, 02:00:30 PM »

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Originally posted by J_A_B
As for the suggestions of a "Euro" and "Pac" arena--the lack of Japanese planes set does NOT matter. Remember folks, they're talking about arenas, NOT an Allied vs Axis matchup--every side would still have all the planes.
J_A_B

even under this concept (and it's still what i meant about a limited japanese planeset) it'd be even more limited than the CT, simply because...

it'd be bloo planes vs bloo planes, or rather us iron v us iron, the japanese planes are so woefully overmatched in CT setups that in a MA-like option to pick, not many would actually pick a japanese ride.

thumbs down on themed dual MAs.

wetrat · « **Reply #46 on:** February 24, 2003, 02:20:50 PM »

We definitely need a new arena... Skuzzy, go!

Rude · « **Reply #47 on:** February 24, 2003, 02:38:53 PM »

Gotcha....and btw, I'm not Rude from AW....I was Ice back in awdos....the real Air Warrior:)

lazs2 · « **Reply #48 on:** February 24, 2003, 02:44:07 PM »

not sure I understand about the "pac" and "euro" arena idea... are you guys saying you want to get rid of the current MA and repalce it with axis vs allied or are you saying that you want two more arenas that are axis vs allied, one for pac and one for euro?

I have no interest in axis vs allied only. We have pac and euro planes both in our current MA.
lazs

Dead Man Flying · « **Reply #49 on:** February 24, 2003, 02:57:06 PM »

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Originally posted by muckmaw
WHat about Full Realism and Relaxed Realism Arenas?

Good Lord, no. The splitting up of the community into "relaxed" and "full" realism (more like arcade and harder arcade realism) was one of the worst things to happen in Air Warrior IMO. It really fractured the community. I know that the one size fits all approach to AH has allowed me to meet countless people who flew in AW RR that I never would have met otherwise because I was a snotty FR dweeb.

Frankly, I like the idea of one main arena, though obviously it has to be able to fit everyone who wants to fly in it.

-- Todd/Leviathn

AKIron · « **Reply #50 on:** February 24, 2003, 03:35:35 PM »

If we had more large maps with mulitple fronts (like AKDesert) then perhaps spawn limits could be instituted. This would spread the fighting more evenly resulting in less network traffic.

By spawn limits I don't mean by type of plane but numbers only. Example; only 20 planes launched within any 10 minute period from any specific base.

Gryffin · « **Reply #51 on:** February 24, 2003, 03:42:18 PM »

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Originally posted by Rude
Two MA's is not the answer.....bigger, cooler maps is the answer with the average distance between fields at two sectors.

We could call it "P-51s high"

Deth7 · « **Reply #52 on:** February 24, 2003, 04:22:31 PM »

Sounds like the perfect time fer a Korean arena!!!!!!:rolleyes:

Shane · « **Reply #53 on:** February 24, 2003, 04:28:23 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
not sure I understand about the "pac" and "euro" arena idea... are you guys saying you want to get rid of the current MA and repalce it with axis vs allied or are you saying that you want two more arenas that are axis vs allied, one for pac and one for euro?I have no interest in axis vs allied only. We have pac and euro planes both in our current MA.
lazs

noooooo.... just european and pacific "named" arenas with all planes from both theatres available to all sides in their respective theatre.

under this scenario, you'd never have any f6 v fw matchups... or ki61 vs 109f4... some planes (allied mostly) would appear in both theatres.

you'd still see same plane matchups in each theatre - especially the pac, because the japanese planeset isn't very fleshed out.

MWHUN · « **Reply #54 on:** February 24, 2003, 04:33:22 PM »

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Originally posted by AKIron
By spawn limits I don't mean by type of plane but numbers only. Example; only 20 planes launched within any 10 minute period from any specific base.

We had this in AW--on paper it looked good but all it did was hinder the defenders that were being cornered on the map...

If you were reduced to 1 base in a particular sector you could put up 20 defenders-however the enemy in that sector may have 2 or 3 bases available to them in striking distance thus you were ganged because of arbitrary zone limitations even if you had enough pilots wanting/trying to defend.

Regarding multiple MA ‘s there could be a side-balancing problem again… I remember in AW, at times, each European Arena had 1 dominant country capable of dictating game play indefinitely.

My 2 cents.

Toad · « **Reply #55 on:** February 24, 2003, 04:38:04 PM »

The more I think about it, we might as well wait until the Mission Theater thingie in AH2.

After all, that may or may not "bleed off" enough of the player base to make this "crowded MA" discussion moot for a while.

Rather than another MA, perhaps we need another different "specialty" feature to attract players and reduce the MA load. For example, if the CT was drawing 200 or so, would we really have a problem? If the CT drew 100 and the new AH2 drew 300, would we really have a problem? What if the player base or HTC instituted a nightly "prime time Special Event" or something like that to reduce MA load. Lots of options other than another server or arena.

I'm willing to wait till AH2 to see how it plays out.

Shane · « **Reply #56 on:** February 24, 2003, 04:43:02 PM »

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Originally posted by Toad
The more I think about it, we might as well wait until the Mission Theater thingie in AH2.

After all, that may or may not "bleed off" enough of the player base to make this "crowded MA" discussion moot for a while.

Rather than another MA, perhaps we need another different "specialty" feature to attract players and reduce the MA load. For example, if the CT was drawing 200 or so, would we really have a problem? If the CT drew 100 and the new AH2 drew 300, would we really have a problem? What if the player base or HTC instituted a nightly "prime time Special Event" or something like that to reduce MA load. Lots of options other than another server or arena.

I'm willing to wait till AH2 to see how it plays out.

what i find both ironic and puzzling is why all those slobbering over AH2 don't start using the CT for practice and run *missions*, not just a loose horde with zero organization and zero sense of "tactics"?

i guess it's too much effort to have to actually "think" and "plan" and the lemming masses prefer to have everything scripted out for them?

Toad · « **Reply #57 on:** February 24, 2003, 04:54:01 PM »

Shane, I'm merely waiting to see what AH2 does to MA numbers. Not longing for "misshuns", a "career" or anything like that. I don't know if I'll be interested in it or not as yet. Have to see what it actually is first.

As for the CT, my thoughts on why it draws the "numbers" that is does have been posted before.

Shane · « **Reply #58 on:** February 24, 2003, 05:38:09 PM »

my questions were just addressed to the ethersphere, toad, not you specifically.

the CT is what people make of it, just like any other arena; i just find it ironic people clamoring for ah2 when you have the concepts and tools sitting practically unused in the CT.

Hwkeye · « **Reply #59 on:** February 24, 2003, 05:42:45 PM »

I am going to buck the trend at give the idea a 'thumbs down' Things are fine. This is what AH (WB and the old AW) is all about. My guess is that anyone blocked from entering the MA got in fairly quickly. The minute you start splitting up folks your start splitting up squads. It's the 'squad life' that really holds this thing together. The MA in WB killed squads and look at where WB is today.

Hwkeye
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