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Offline Sabre

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News Release: Saddam Will Not Disarm Missles
« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2003, 04:14:33 PM »
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Saddam has just made the biggest mistake of his 'career'.


Not a troll, Dowding, but an honest inquiry.  If this in fact is Iraq's official answer to the U.N. order to destroy those missiles, would you consider that it's time then for "the last resort?"  After all, what good are inspections if disarmament does not follow any discoveries of contraband? Just curious regarding your take, as I know you've been an outspoken opponent against military action.
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« Reply #16 on: February 24, 2003, 04:48:15 PM »
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I say we support the debate.  Bush can go down in history as the only President to get his hands dirty when he shoots Saddam mid sentence.

Bomb him and get it overwith - sick of hearing about it, and I hate Peter Jennings.


LOL.. the 'shooting' sentance struck me as the funniest damn thing I've read in days.

Nice one, Saur!!

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« Reply #17 on: February 24, 2003, 05:00:09 PM »
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Saddam has just made the biggest mistake of his 'career'.


Let's hope it's his last.
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« Reply #18 on: February 24, 2003, 05:04:48 PM »
No hopefully he makes more mistakes and OUR people don't.

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« Reply #19 on: February 24, 2003, 05:05:20 PM »
I find it saves a lot of duct tape if you just tape it over your nose and mouth.  That way, one roll will last a lifetime.

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« Reply #20 on: February 25, 2003, 10:21:20 AM »
Still interested to hear Dowding's response.  Thanks.

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« Reply #21 on: February 25, 2003, 10:41:08 AM »
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Still interested to hear Dowding's response.  Thanks.

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« Reply #22 on: February 25, 2003, 10:51:44 AM »
I dunno, Funked might be right.  Weren't the balking nations all tossing out a new resolution wanting beefed up inspections?  If Iraq does not voluntarily destroy these missles that U.N. weapons inspectors are in violation, it tosses more weight behind Bush's arguments that Saddam will never voluntarily dissarm.

I think U.N. authorization is much more likely to be given after this than it was before.  At worst, I think you'll see France & Russia abstain.

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« Reply #23 on: February 25, 2003, 11:01:46 AM »
the day before Blix gives his report to the UN saddam will destroy or say he will destroy the missles that were found ( but not the missles that were not found ). Blix will then say 'it's working , we are disarming iraq" and the french will say "give the inspectors more time to do their job, it's working", and saddam will say (to himself) "i'm winning , i'm winning)

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« Reply #24 on: February 25, 2003, 11:13:58 AM »
Well lookie here, I heard this actualy suprised GW.  He thought SH would destroy the rockets just to show he is cooperating with the UN and make Bush's case an even tougher sell.  I take it SH doesn't play chess.

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« Reply #25 on: February 25, 2003, 11:16:19 AM »
Hmmm, I thought the UN inspectors were in Iraq to confirm that the WMD that Saddam shows are distroyed.  So why would more inspectors be needed as there has been nothing to distroy?

I really think that the missiles not being distroyed is the trigger.  I know that invading Iraq appeaars to some to be the USA swaggering about the world stage.  I'm sorry that you feel that way, but we in the USA feel strongly that Saddam leading any nation is a threat not only to us but to you as well.  Force is the last resort and we have arrived at that point.

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« Reply #26 on: February 25, 2003, 11:32:37 AM »
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the day before Blix gives his report to the UN saddam will destroy or say he will destroy the missles that were found ( but not the missles that were not found ). Blix will then say 'it's working , we are disarming iraq" and the french will say "give the inspectors more time to do their job, it's working", and saddam will say (to himself) "i'm winning , i'm winning)


Yes, that fits the Iraqi dictator's mode of operation thus far.  You'll note that just before very major report to the U.N. by the inspectors Iraq has pledged to increase cooperation, comply with a request (not all, just one or two), and/or release a handful of pages of documents (of dubious origins and value).  Thus Blix is forced to caveat his report with the words "increased signs of cooperations.  The fact that conditions are attached to any compliance, and that few if any of the documents released in a trickle (23 pages before the last report, 6 letters to the U.N inspectors this week) have proven to be relavent to the open disarmament issues is little publicized.  The half dozen letters this week that Blix referred to today as a "sign of substantial increase in cooperation" don't actually contain any requested information, only promises that they will provide it.  As I've said, Saddam is giving certain member nations on the Council just enough, and nothing more, to give them a reason to avoid "the last resort."  

My question is, what conditions should prompt the last resort?  Resolution 1441 was supposed to BE the last opportunity for Iraq, and stated pretty clearly what was required of Iraq.  Full and immediate compliance with all requests by inspectors, a full written disclosure of their WMD programs, including what happened to their remaining stocks, interviews in private with any and all scientists/participants involved (including a complete list of names, which has never been provided).  This was all supposed to happen immediately, with the initiative on Iraq to feed the process.  Four months later, none of these requirements have been met, or have been met only partially and reluctantly.  Iraq has treated 1441 in the same manner as every resolution that came before it, with contempt.
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