Author Topic: Those of you in MAINE should be ashamed (Read 1179 times)

Mini D · « **Reply #15 on:** February 27, 2003, 12:54:08 PM »

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Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
Teachers aren't allowed to express their views on controversial issues to students, atleast not in the 2 states and the nation's capitol, where I attended school(s).

As a matter of fact, teachers are there to teach the material and that's that...

Teachers can't express their views on God, or religion, or anything questionable to students... badgering students about what their parents do should be grounds for immediate dismissal without compensation and never be hired anywhere else.

If they want to talk to the parents, that's a whole other issue... but the students, you just dun fukd yourself.
-SW

I know for a fact that there are teachers in Oregon more than happy to share political views with the class on a regular basis.

MiniD

AWMac · « **Reply #16 on:** February 27, 2003, 01:09:04 PM »

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I know for a fact that there are teachers in Oregon more than happy to share political views with the class on a regular basis.

Bet Jane Fonda would have made an EXCELLENT teacher in Oregon.

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Sixpence · « **Reply #17 on:** February 27, 2003, 01:09:19 PM »

JAB trollin again?

capt. apathy · « **Reply #18 on:** February 27, 2003, 01:12:57 PM »

this is the only part I had a problem with-

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and that those who would fight it are unethical
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I see nothing wrong with teachers expressing their opinions (as long as the are expressed as opinions and not fact. as in "I think....)

It's ok if the say they think this war is unethical, or even war in general is unethical, but it's not like we ask servicemen if they'd like to participate in this particular war. we trust them to protect us. and they trust us to (and our system of gov't ) to make sure they aren't sent places they don't belong.

if a servicemen gets sent to fight in a war that is unethical or even just inappropriate, I'd say it's more the fault of those who didn't vote or make their feelings known politically than the fault of the guy who is just doing his job.

btw- as far as teachers not teaching anything but the proscribed curriculum. that’s sure not the way It happens around here. 2 years ago they let our highschool kids out of school early (without parental permission and gave them an excused absence) to take the bus down town to participate in a political protest. if they believe in the issue the kid gets an excused absence if not, not. hell they wouldn't even give my kids an excused absence when I kept them home the first half the day on 9/11 to talk about what they'd seen on TV

Kanth · « **Reply #19 on:** February 27, 2003, 01:16:57 PM »

vouchers.

Mini D · « **Reply #20 on:** February 27, 2003, 01:37:58 PM »

I disagree with the idea of it being ok for teachers to express political views as long as they are just their oppinions.

If you present something to the class as a teacher, you are teaching them. If you express one oppinion as being right and the other as being wrong.. then you are teaching them.

Good, bad... whatever. Opinions and the classroom do not mix well. That's why there is supposed to just be curriculum.

MiniD

Saurdaukar · « **Reply #21 on:** February 27, 2003, 03:21:32 PM »

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Originally posted by Mini D
I disagree with the idea of it being ok for teachers to express political views as long as they are just their oppinions.

If you present something to the class as a teacher, you are teaching them. If you express one oppinion as being right and the other as being wrong.. then you are teaching them.

Good, bad... whatever. Opinions and the classroom do not mix well. That's why there is supposed to just be curriculum.

MiniD

Agreed.

Frogm4n · « **Reply #22 on:** February 27, 2003, 04:02:00 PM »

there is nothing wrong with teachers having an opinion as long as they dont teach it as fact. I had plenty of teachers in florida let their religous views and political views slip into their teaching assignments(all right wing btw). I didnt whine about it. Of course this was high school and your not going to be influenced by some wacko nut who teach's that the trickle down theory is superior.

Hangtime · « **Reply #23 on:** February 27, 2003, 04:33:18 PM »

I lived in Main for quite a few years. Found the folks to be clannish, and even if you lived there for 40 years you'd still be refered to as 'that gent from down state'.

On the other hand, they were quick with a smile, willing to help, were not stand-offish or prudish, seemed mighty damn partotic and were for the most part completely annoyed at the Canucks.

I liked the place. I liked the people. They just can't give directions fer toejam. "yuh cain't get theyuh frum heyah..yuh gots ta go uver theyah furst."

Mainers! Go MARINERS!

And that news story is just more media hype and noise. Much adoo about nuthin.

midnight Target · « **Reply #24 on:** February 27, 2003, 04:34:50 PM »

Rush and Dr. Laura both mentioned this on their radio shows today. I can't believe the gullibility level of some reactionary idiots.

NOTHING HAPPENED! Read the original and tell me what exactly happened?

It is a non-story for krise sakes. Go get indignant about something real would ya!

VAQ · « **Reply #25 on:** February 27, 2003, 06:41:25 PM »

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Originally posted by Frogm4n
noone cared when we made fun of the fatties(and in college i still do). kids are going to pick on each other so squealing what.....

"noone (sic) cared"

This one wonders how the children taunted in this way felt about it. This one wonders how the collage-age young adults you continue to taunt feel about it.

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koala · « **Reply #26 on:** February 27, 2003, 07:28:59 PM »

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I see nothing wrong with teachers expressing their opinions (as long as the are expressed as opinions and not fact. as in "I think....)

So a teacher saying "I think Christianity is the one true religion and in my opinion all you kiddies that don't believe it are going to hell." is okay?

I think you're clueless.

CptTrips · « **Reply #27 on:** February 27, 2003, 07:45:04 PM »

Exactly, what if their "opinion" was that all Jews were filth and should be rounded up and gased? Would they be allowed to express that opinion?

They need to stick to math, english, and science. Keep their fuking opinions to themselves.

If they can't, maybe the good citizens of Maine should put a few molotov cocktails through their dining room window to help motivate them.

Wab

midnight Target · « **Reply #28 on:** February 27, 2003, 08:43:56 PM »

I now understand how completely rediculous stories can lead to public outcries.

Like Kristallnacht

sad really.

Erlkonig · « **Reply #29 on:** February 27, 2003, 08:43:56 PM »

Soooo, Wabbit, when was the last time you tried arson to settle a dispute? whoopee right-wing psychopaths.