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Missions: strategy alternative?
« on: August 04, 1999, 06:17:00 PM »
I'm not sure if this has been looked at but what about missions, with associated theater of ops? Example: 5 players join one mission on the Soviet side, 1943, with a max of say, 10. They are given a mission,"intercept enemy bombers" Now we need 5 players for Germany mission "escort bombers" (with a maximum number of players being a close percentage of the first enemy group). The bombers could be flown by a third group, or be computer controlled. Now you have all the limits to make it a more realistic setting. you avoid having to fly aircraft for situations they were not designed to do (Yak-3 high alt heavy bomber intercept, for example) and a cool little vignette to play in. this could be done both in 'open' and 'squadron' formats.It also seems to me to place the aircraft in their proper place, thus you don't have everyone flying the last Spit or the fastest Me 109 all the time. immagine a Malta scenario, Macchi C200's and Fiat Cr42's escorting a few Stukas vs. a few Hurricanes and gladiators! Or a Winter war scenario! The idea is that you place the planes in a playable, and viable historical/performance context where they can be flown with a realistic chance of comming out on top (and the pilot having fun)  

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« Reply #1 on: August 04, 1999, 11:17:00 PM »
  Man!  That sure sounds like CK to me.

  Personally, I prefer to let the world work it out.  The biggest problem with such a format is, if I'm a bomber, and there are a maximum of say 8 interceptors, if I see 8 dots whiz by below me, I can be sure that nobody is waiting for me ahead.

  Or maybe I just don't get the jist of your post correctly...  (is this in the same arena as everyone else?)

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« Reply #2 on: August 05, 1999, 02:27:00 PM »
Well, no it would be an alternative arena, the 'missions' arena. I guess it would be an alternative to the 3 or 4 nations at continuous war arena. The first group that 'initiates' the mission say for example 5 players (there's a finite period to 'sign in') defines the number of enemy players that will participate. This number (enemy) would be called upon from the logged on players in other arenas (both groups could be actually) A call for participants in so and so mission due to close in so and so minutes could be announced. Another possibility is to be asked when you first log in if you would like to participate in a mission, the options being offered therein. it seems the only way to be able to fly a hurricane I, for example, in an interesting context. Moreover this provides the developers an elegant context to introduce different aircraft an thus keep the interest level high (mine would be at least!) Immagine being able to pick from the 'missions of the day', two for example, east front or pacific (early). Let's say one chooses Pacific (I would choose EF, but to vary...) We have a choice of escort (Oscar, ect) or bomber (Val, Betty, ect ect)The first person will choose the principle aircraft for each role. If no one picks the other role, the computer will fly it. The enemy will be allowed a number of oponents that correspond to the opposing side in a balanced way. Each mission could last 5 to 20 minutes if not more. When it's over (or you die) you can go to the general arena, or join another mission. Again, imagine the posibilities. Winter war: flying a Fokker DXXI Vs. A force of I-16's and I-153's or Tu-2's! Too cool to pas that up, eh? With varying terrain, snow, dessert, steppe, Ocean, ect ect. I think it would be a VERY different and extremely fun.  

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« Reply #3 on: August 05, 1999, 09:20:00 PM »
  And just why isn't it possible to have such missions take place in a normal arena (like TOSCWB's HA)?  If the planeset were limited to correct matchups and ratios (such as TOSCWB's scenarios), such battles would occur without the need to limit the arena.

  I just don't see the fun in flying with a limited number of people when one can fly with the same people, with the added threat of additional opposition, and the added bonus of possible frindly help.

  Now, you used the magic words (Tu-2...), but I still don't agree that a separate arena like that would be any fun (well, it just wouldn't compare the the other arenas).

"Again, imagine the posibilities. Winter war: flying a Fokker DXXI Vs. A force of I-16's and I-153's or Tu-2's! Too cool to pas that up, eh?"

  And why could we not have such a planeset in a full arena?

"With varying terrain, snow, dessert, steppe, Ocean, ect ect. I think it would be a VERY different and extremely fun."

  And why could we not have such terrain in a full arena?

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Missions: strategy alternative?
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 1999, 09:59:00 PM »
I have suggested having numerous theatres/arenas.

Battle Of Britian.
Midway.
Coral Sea.
iwo/Guadalcanal
China Burma India,
Russian Front
Generic FEBA (Forward Edge of the Battle Area.)
Malta.
North Africa.
Philippean Islands.
Etc. Etc. Etc.

You could Keep these terrains up all the times, and let squads set up Challenge events.

One person Moderates.  You get perhaps 20 people to a side.  Then they rumble.
The Attacker sets the mission, the Defender Defends.

For Say Example.
Running a Flying Tigers Scenario on the CBI Terrain.

Well the Flying Tigers didn't attack much and they were outnumbered.  But they had Radios in their planes, and Ground Observers who called in and gave them steers to the incomming bogies.

You get 40 guys to play IJA and twenty to play AVG/RAF.

The IJA team would select the Target and the Off they would go.  For the AVG/RAF you only need three planes.  The P-40C, Brewster Buffalo, and Typhoon.

Turn off the Radios for the IJA guys, they are in the Dark after they take off, except for what they can see.

And when ATC/Radar Pick up the Bombers/Fighter of the IJA the vector the RAF/AVG in on them.

Sounds doable to me.

Any of the other Arenas could do this.

Your squad challenges my squad to meet in the "Russian Front" arean,  You will be the vaunted LW and I will Defend the Rodina from your Faschist Aggression.

Or We have to defend Jolly Old England from the Huns (no offense intended)  My squad is Hurris on Defense, you get BF-109s and Ju-87s.

Or.........

Sounds more fun than bowling.

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« Reply #5 on: August 06, 1999, 01:58:00 AM »
Sounds great to me! If the types of planes and the numbers are set within limits, then we're really talkin' baby, yeah. I just want to fly some different aircraft and explore the historic/performance parameters this would allow in a fun, balanced way. Again as I said in another post, Show me an I-16 or a LaGG-3 or, god forbid a Fokker DXXI (and did I mention a nice Macchi C200?) and I'll be happy, yes in deedy.