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Offline Vermillion

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« Reply #15 on: March 01, 2003, 01:13:11 PM »
Well... new memory is not an option.  Without some kind of test showing a problem, they're not going to RMA it for me, and it costs $375 for what I have, and I'm not going to just toss it out and get new memory, after just 30 days.  So please no more "just get new memory" suggestions

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« Reply #16 on: March 01, 2003, 01:33:48 PM »
Memory and motherboards seem to have the most problems these days. I have seen hard drives cause the kind of problems that Siaf_csf mentioned but that is much more rare.

I was having similar problems with my 9700 pro when I first bought it. Was using an Epox board that up until then had been trouble free with my Geforce 3. Bought a soyo dragon lite and the problem disappeared.
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« Reply #17 on: March 01, 2003, 03:08:21 PM »
Another option Verm.  If XP has a hard read failure of a sector on the hard driver, it will reboot.  No hard drive error will be reported, it will just show the software that crashed.
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« Reply #18 on: March 01, 2003, 03:12:54 PM »
Basically the same thing I described above Skuzzy :)

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« Reply #19 on: March 01, 2003, 06:07:25 PM »
Oops..sure did Siaf,..misread it the first time.
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« Reply #20 on: March 02, 2003, 03:52:30 AM »
Well your explanation clearly shows your stronger technical background. My knowledge is a result of a 20-year hobby so I don't always necessarily know what's causing something exactly, but my experience has taught me to take the proper steps to troubleshoot and root out the problem.

That's why we described the very same thing in laymans (mine) and technical (yours) terms.

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« Reply #21 on: March 02, 2003, 11:19:36 AM »
Well...

The stability improved, but the problem never entirely went away.

I ended up deciding to return the FIC card to Newegg.com for a refund and eat the 15% restocking fee.  I could have just swapped it for another FIC 9700 Pro OEM card, but I decided to go with a straight Retail ATI 9700 Pro card.  Just sick of screwing with it.

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« Reply #22 on: March 02, 2003, 01:23:46 PM »
Skuzzy..

Very off topic, and maybe you have no clue but......

Would it demand alot of work and tears to port AH for OSX ?

I know i can get WB3 for OSX and win but that game sux and i have no idea of how much headaches it gives the WB3 designers to support both OS
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« Reply #23 on: March 02, 2003, 06:51:47 PM »
Hey Verm, I've been doing a lot of reading on that card lately.  It seems that stability problems with that card and certain motherboards aren't uncommon.  The most common fix that I've seen is to reduce your agp from 8x to 4x in your bios.  You might want to try that out if you still have the problem with the new board.

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« Reply #24 on: March 02, 2003, 07:27:51 PM »
Thanks Doug, I'll do that.

I tried to change it back to x4 once from within WinXP in the ATI Control Panel, but it seems it auto detects each time on bootup from the motherboard and was always set at x8 (even after I changed it).

Next time I'll try it from the BIOS.

Thanks for all the suggestions guys.  I appreciate it.

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« Reply #25 on: March 03, 2003, 05:10:44 AM »
Verm,

I got the same M/B, Ati 9700 pro, and the same problem, its seems that a lot of people are having a nightmare as well:(.

http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=33662452

One of the potential solutions like you said is to disable the fast write in the Smartgart tab in the video properties. I have just tried that and it seems a lot more stable.

But I hope someone comes up with the proper answer to it:).

RGJ

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« Reply #26 on: March 03, 2003, 08:42:05 AM »
yah RGJ, thats the best thread I've seen yet on the subject.  I've tried everything in that thread, except for the new beta BIOS update from 26 February.  I'll do that later today.

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« Reply #27 on: March 03, 2003, 12:59:11 PM »
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I am running scared now due to all the information I am reading
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« Reply #28 on: March 03, 2003, 01:47:07 PM »
XP
p2.8
ati 9700 pro...

haven't had a single problem...                     yet

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« Reply #29 on: March 03, 2003, 01:53:34 PM »
Wlfgang, which motherboard do you have? Is it an E7502 Granite Bay chipset?

S-Eagle, what video card do you have or are you planning on using in this machine? If you want to use a Radeon 9700 Pro, I would suggest a different motherboard, maybe one of the new SiS685 chipsets instead? I'm sure someone here can suggest one. If you don't plan on using a Radeon 9700, then you have no worries that I know about with your chosen motherboard.