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« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2003, 10:40:10 AM »
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better get used to him.  Quite likely that he'll be here for another 6 years :)


Don't make it worse :)


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America is threatened by Iraq in no way, it's just plain rediculous

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« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2003, 10:46:44 AM »
LOL! I just can't believe anyone believes that document.

And... I can't believe that anyone doesn't think that EVERY country in the U.N. does that stuff already.  And that EVERY country in the U.N. takes precautions against it.

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« Reply #17 on: March 02, 2003, 10:53:44 AM »
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I always find it more credible when I speak only for myself.  I usually don't carry around a mouse in my pocket.

Plus, when I only speak for myself, it stops any temptation that I might have for illusions of granduer.

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Agree on this point with ya cobra. Was hooked by Udie



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You people are a diddlyin joke.....

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I got no idea why we're so dangerous?????

Just 3 guys telling others what they personaly think about a war against Iraq.
Didn't noticed Straffo, Dudel and me changed history lately :D

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btw Hortlund, if ya judge over a country by of the personal opions of two single folks , nobody can help ya.

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« Reply #18 on: March 02, 2003, 10:55:58 AM »
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Don't make it worse :)


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America is threatened by Iraq in no way, it's just plain rediculous




 LOL coming from a person who's glorious leader could only win reelection by bashing the ONE country that protected Germany from soviet take over for 60 years.  Worse, that's funny.  You guys are making a pretty horrible bed,  I hope you're ready to sleep in it....

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« Reply #19 on: March 02, 2003, 11:03:15 AM »
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LOL coming from a person who's glorious leader could only win reelection by bashing the ONE country that protected Germany from soviet take over for 60 years.  Worse, that's funny.  You guys are making a pretty horrible bed,  I hope you're ready to sleep in it....




1.America protected it's bulwak against communismn.

2.Don't forget: We followed America the last 60 years and we will do for some but not at all cases.


Regards Blitz


By the way Udie, don't call me names please, it's bad style.



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« Reply #20 on: March 02, 2003, 11:14:22 AM »
LOL! guys... stop it.

If none of you can't see the irony of publishing supposed comunique telling the American intelligence agencies to attempt to intercept any foreign comuniques then I simply feel sorry for you.

Most likely: it was made up.  Everyone tries to get as much information as possible on other countries.  Nobody needs to tell their intelligence agencies to do this via memo.

Least likely, but most ironic:  Someone intercepted the comunique and sold it to a publisher that posted an article saying only Americans are doing this.

No matter how you spell it out... its a nothing story.  But some people are clinging to it as if it actually means something.  Gents, this is like the "SAT scores" thread.  The data you are basing your argument on is totally rediculous.  Using it to support any argument, in turn, makes you look totally rediculous.

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« Reply #21 on: March 02, 2003, 11:31:28 AM »
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LOL coming from a person who's glorious leader could only win reelection by bashing the ONE country that protected Germany from soviet take over for 60 years.


And as a friend of the USA (and yes we are thankfull for what the USA did for us in the past) its our job to put oil on troubled waters or to warn our friend if he's gona do something harum-scarum.

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« Reply #22 on: March 02, 2003, 12:36:28 PM »
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And as a friend of the USA (and yes we are thankfull for what the USA did for us in the past) its our job to put oil on troubled waters or to warn our friend if he's gona do something harum-scarum.


And if your "friend" has chosen a path of action that you disagree with...is it then your job to sabotage his journey as much as possible?

...with friends like these...

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« Reply #23 on: March 02, 2003, 01:03:16 PM »
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1.America protected it's bulwak against communismn.

2.Don't forget: We followed America the last 60 years and we will do for some but not at all cases.


Regards Blitz


By the way Udie, don't call me names please, it's bad style.



America is threatened by Iraq in no way, it's just plain rediculous




 1.  What's a bulwak?

 2. We're not asking you to follow us.  You guys have a free country.  We (really all I can speak for is myself) are asking you not to get in our way with sadaam.  He's evil and we will take him out,  it is the right thing to do and it's not about oil.  What shroeder did to get reelected was/is unforgivable to me.    And you're efforts in the war on terrorism are apreciated here, except maybe giving that terrorist only 15 years for his part in 9/11.  How about send him to England where he would at least get life.

3.  I don't think I called you a name, it's not my style anymore.  I've done it in the past but it doesn't really help in an argument.  That being said,  you would be utterly amazed at the amount of text I have written to/about you and then deleted before hitting the "submit reply" button :D

4.  America is not bad.  I want you to honestly think about what the USA could do if it wanted to.  The fact that we are wasting so much time at the UN should say something about us at the very least.  We could have turned the whole middle east into a glass parking lot on 9/12/01 had we wanted to, and believe me many Americans wanted to do just that.  We still could.  I do get very pissed at anti-americanism because I know what my country has done for the world, at my and my families and friends expense.  All this money we give to the world come out of my taxes.  I personaly pay for part of it.  Most of the time I don't mind, in fact I'm happy that I can help some starving kid in Africa.  But when my (the USA's) hand starts getting bitten by the mouth it is feeding I get pissed.

5.  I don't hate Germany.  I have some German friends and they are great people.  Hell,  a large part of central Texas was settled by Germans in the mid 1800's.  There is a LOT of German herritige all around us here in Austin.  France is another matter, they suck.

6.  As much as you piss me off,  and you REALLY DO,  I don't hate you either.  If we ever met,  I'm sure we'd have lots in common and could have a good time together.  It's just that you are so wrong on this Iraq thing it's mind boggling.  AND you are so wrong about Bush.  He's our president, not yours.  Like him or not,  a majority of the USA aproves of the job he is doing.  I think he could be doing better on the domestic side myself, but he's got a large part of the senate blocking him at all times.  Considering the toejam he's had to face since he took office I think he is doing an outstanding job. AND at least he didn't turn our population against an ally of 60 years to win the election.

 now I'm off to get laid :D

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« Reply #24 on: March 02, 2003, 01:18:56 PM »
blitz und Sie andere hugahunks von jeder Nationalität, die behaupten, daß der Irak keine "Drohung" in die Vereinigten
Staaten ist, sage ich dieses: Erinnern Sie Sich an September 11, 2001?  I sicher läßt Hölle ihn nicht vergessen haben! Und wenn der Irak in jeder Hinsicht war, die an ihn angeschlossen wurde (und mich glauben Sie, jeder weiß, daß der Irak war und an die angeschlossen wird, die die VEREINIGTEN STAATEN an diesem Tag IN ANGRIFF NAHMEN), würde ich sagen, daß der Irak eine Drohung ist. So mit diesem besagten, Piss weg!

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« Reply #25 on: March 02, 2003, 01:28:31 PM »
A Brief History of Germany

1871 - Bismarck founds modern Germany.
1890 - Bismarck sacked, warmonger Wilhelm II takes direct control.
1914 - Germany starts World War I
1914-1918 - Germany kills millions upon millions of people.
1917 - Germany forces peace loving Americans to enter war.
1918 - Germany loses World War I.
1920's - Germans try democracy.
1933 - Germans reject democracy, allow Hitler to take power.
1939 - Germany starts World War II.
1939-1945 - Germany kills millions upon millions of people.
1941 - Germany forces peace loving Americans to enter war.
1945 - Germany loses World War II.
1946 - Germans whine about lack of food, America gives billions in food aid
     to feed them.
1947 - Germans whine about crappy economy, America gives billions in
     Marshall Plan aid to rebuild German economy.
1948-1949 - America puts bellybutton on line and risks WW3 to save a few Berliners
     from Soviet hordes.
1949 - Federal Republic of Germany (West Germany) established.
1950's - America spends billions to defend West Germany from Soviet hordes.
1950's - German 'economic miracle' occurs while America keeps watch on
     Soviet hordes.
1955 - NATO formed to protect West Germany from Soviet hordes.
1960's - America spends billions to defend West Germany from Soviet hordes.
1960's - German students protest war in Vietnam and American civil rights.
1963 - American President John Kennedy makes "Ich bin ein Berliner" speech.
1970's - America spends billions to defend West Germany from Soviet hordes.
1970's - Germans form the Marxist terrorist group Red Army Faction (RAF).
1970's - Leftist German guerrillas burn, loot, and plunder much of West
     Germany.
1980's - America spends tens of billions to defend West Germany from Soviet
     hordes.
1980's - German leftists squeak about Pershing II missiles.
1987 - American President Ronald Reagan makes "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down
     this wall" speech.
1989 - Gorbachev tears down Berlin Wall.
1990 - German Reunification.
1990's - America spends tens of billions to defend Germany from Islamic
     hordes.
1990's - Germany stands by as ethnic cleansing occurs in Balkans.
1993 - Germany joins European Union.
1995 - Americans send troops to Bosnia as Germans watch from the sidelines.
1997 - Germans finally send troops to Bosnia.
1998 - Hardline, left-of-left socialist come to power under Gerhard
     Schroeder.
1999 - Americans lead air war to save Kosovo as Germans watch from the
     sidelines.
2001 - Schroeder offers solidarity to America after 9/11 attacks.
2002 - Schroeder bashes America to distract voters during election
     campaign.
2003 - Germany sees rise in anti-Americanism after several decades of poor
     treatment from America.

AND YOU THOUGHT THE FRENCH WERE UNGRATEFUL?


 Germany certainly has the right to disagree w/ us... but they are overtly trying to derail us from doing what we feel is best for our country... disagreeing is one thing, but not siding with us is the same as siding against us(As all clear thinking people in America know) . The fact is, Germany is a non-communist, free country who owes whatever current prosperity it has to the U.S.  You Germans may not like it, but we protected your borders when you could not, fed your people when you could not, built up your infrastructure when you could not, bolstered your economy when you could not.  You want to know when you should no longer be beholden to the U.S.?  Never.   A little reciprocity would be nice.

The Americans who actually follow our history know that the French were very instumental in aiding us in acquiring our independence(thank you).  We paid them back in WWI and WWII, with interest.  Thousands upon thousands more Americans died in France in  WWI and  WWII than French died in the American revolution.

The Germans pay back decades of having their country propped up bt us  by deliberately going about interfering with what we feel is vital to our security. The only logic that I can conceive of is: Both France and Germany have been doing extensive and illegal business with Iraq and they don't want to be found out.  The only other explanation is the same one that applies to the ignorant peaceniks in this country:  they ignore the facts because they like to be heard... and here is just another example of something they can "march" about to make them feel good about themselves.
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« Reply #26 on: March 02, 2003, 01:30:49 PM »
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blitz und Sie andere hugahunks von jeder Nationalität, die behaupten, daß der Irak keine "Drohung" in die Vereinigten
Staaten ist, sage ich dieses: Erinnern Sie Sich an September 11, 2001?  I sicher läßt Hölle ihn nicht vergessen haben! Und wenn der Irak in jeder Hinsicht war, die an ihn angeschlossen wurde (und mich glauben Sie, jeder weiß, daß der Irak war und an die angeschlossen wird, die die VEREINIGTEN STAATEN an diesem Tag IN ANGRIFF NAHMEN), würde ich sagen, daß der Irak eine Drohung ist. So mit diesem besagten, Piss weg!



roflmao, online translation maschines still need a lot of work . :D


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« Reply #27 on: March 02, 2003, 01:31:30 PM »
Well, at last I'm grateful that I took German in high school... lol.
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« Reply #28 on: March 02, 2003, 02:07:53 PM »
I took 2 years of French in junior high, glad I remember none of it.
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« Reply #29 on: March 02, 2003, 02:11:30 PM »
Noch einmal müssen wir bitten, ", was tut den Irak mit.einbeziehen den Angriffen von September 11, 2001?" Können Sie den Iraker unter den 911 Terroristen numerieren? Wie über den Saudi?
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