Author Topic: Al Queida leader (Read 2116 times)

john9001 · « **Reply #15 on:** March 03, 2003, 12:44:30 PM »

torture? what torture? you want to see torture, you have to go talk to saddam. but , it's ok if saddam tortures and murders iraq people because we are going to "contain" him for 30-40 years.

i wonder how many iraqis saddam will torture and murder in 30-40 years, maybe the UN knows , maybe france knows.

CptTrips · « **Reply #16 on:** March 03, 2003, 12:48:53 PM »

Sub-human pieces of filth have no human rights.

They should systematically and methodically work on him with lead pipes, blow torches and belt sanders for as long as it takes.

And when they are absolutely certain they have squeezed the last drop of useful information from this bag of excrement, he should be garroted with a length of piano wire, his body smeared with pig intestines, and his carcass dumped into a ditch for dogs to feed upon.

And the whole thing should be put on Pay-per-View.

Wab

Ping · « **Reply #17 on:** March 03, 2003, 12:51:05 PM »

John, no need to bring Iraq into this topic.
We are discussing a Kuwaiti born to Pakistani parents captured in Pakistan Guilty of The WTC terrorist attacks.

ra · « **Reply #18 on:** March 03, 2003, 12:51:08 PM »

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Reminds me of what our western nations stand for.>>>

So how do you recommend he be treated? Would it be OK to torture him so long as we don't condone it? Or is torture out of the question?

What do our western nations stand for, anyway? This is messy business, no one keeps their hands clean unless they are uninvolved, in which case they should stfu.

ra

AKIron · « **Reply #19 on:** March 03, 2003, 12:59:55 PM »

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Originally posted by Ping
John, no need to bring Iraq into this topic.
We are discussing a Kuwaiti born to Pakistani parents captured in Pakistan Guilty of The WTC terrorist attacks.

I guess there's no need to bring North Korea into the dialog on Iraq. And yet so many have.

Batz · « **Reply #20 on:** March 03, 2003, 01:12:00 PM »

This guy may have "plans" under way. We dont know what they could be but they could mean that a lot of people die. As revolting as torture is, its effective. Theres degrees of torture. In some instances torture can make a person confess or admit to something he has done to avoid the pain. So its not something that could be used in a court.

However, it can be used to get information that may help save lives. And if thats the case then I have no trouble turning back while the guy gets worked over.

Are you telling me that if on 9/8 we captured on the the 9/11 hijackers and knew they had something planned that was as potentially devasting as the wtc attacks you would refrain from torture?

Heck most would rather just put a bullet in this guys head, wrap him in pig skin, stitch the pigs bellybutton to his face then pour 15 tons on pigshit into his grave, then cover the the top with concret. And maybe even have Salman Rushdie take a dump on him after eating Pork Skins and pork bbq.

LePaul · « **Reply #21 on:** March 03, 2003, 01:17:19 PM »

Put him in a room and blare the same episode of Brady Bunch over and over and over again....better yet, no bruises!

osage · « **Reply #22 on:** March 03, 2003, 01:23:26 PM »

I bet he is only going to get skim milk in his Cheerios.

john9001 · « **Reply #23 on:** March 03, 2003, 01:23:39 PM »

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Originally posted by Oedipus

BTW, if he'd been caught in Bagdad I can well imagine the hawks would be rallying for an immediate and damning strike. Yet no one of you is calling for a nOO_queU-LARR bomb to hit Karachi yet?

Oed

so if he had been caught in NYC you would bomb NYC ??, you make no sense. Anyway , i thought we were talking about torture.

osage · « **Reply #24 on:** March 03, 2003, 01:31:15 PM »

Right now he best torture would be to leave him in solitary for 72 hours. No light, no sound, no clothes. Just slide him a bagel every 12 hours and let him drink from the toilet.

An--ti--ci-pay--tion.

Ripsnort · « **Reply #25 on:** March 03, 2003, 01:31:27 PM »

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Originally posted by Oedipus
Lousy analogy. I for one never saw anyone in the Us let alone NYC do a jubily of joy after hearing the news. Unlike those I saw in several Middle East countries AND in Karachi. The Pakistani people are far FAR more pro-El Quaeda and OBL than they are for anything to do with the US. Thousands of Pakistani's went to go fight with OBL when the US and Afghanistan forces started fighting El Quaida. How many Iraqi's went?

Oed

Yep, proves psychological theory that if you keep someone impoverished, dumb with lots of extremist religious overtones, that you have total control over their self-esteem, not to mention the other elements of their "heirachy"...this applies to all walks of humans, and religions. Maslow would understand.

AKIron · « **Reply #26 on:** March 03, 2003, 01:34:38 PM »

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Originally posted by Oedipus
Lousy analogy. I for one never saw anyone in the Us let alone NYC do a jubily of joy after hearing the news. Unlike those I saw in several Middle East countries AND in Karachi. The Pakistani people are far FAR more pro-El Quaeda and OBL than they are for anything to do with the US. Thousands of Pakistani's went to go fight with OBL when the US and Afghanistan forces started fighting El Quaida. How many Iraqi's went?

Oed

No argument from me. I said a long time ago we should take a harder stance with Pakistan and Saudi.

BTW, most of us quit pronouncing that second "u" in the '60s. And it's really not very politic to make fun of the verbally impaired, even if they are the president.

osage · « **Reply #27 on:** March 03, 2003, 01:38:40 PM »

This is the guy that cut Danny Pearl's throat?

devious · « **Reply #28 on:** March 03, 2003, 02:29:25 PM »

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Sub-human pieces of filth have no human rights.

Over here we called them, "Untermenschen". Literally, sub-humans. Half a century ago. Isn`t it surprising to hear such words from the world`s greatest democracy ?

It`s good they got him. It`s a common practise to use interrogation technique in such cases - those within the borders of the law, mind you (and there`s sufficient room).

But there`s a fine line you don`t want to transcend.

I certainly hope he`ll spill some beans on OBL and the rest of those bastards.

AKIron · « **Reply #29 on:** March 03, 2003, 02:57:53 PM »

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Originally posted by devious
Over here we called them, "Untermenschen". Literally, sub-humans. Half a century ago. Isn`t it surprising to hear such words from the world`s greatest democracy ?

There is a difference between judging someone by their actions and judging them by their race.