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Offline Rude

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« Reply #15 on: March 04, 2003, 09:02:16 AM »
Miko?

Are you a natural born American Citizen?

Offline Hangtime

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« Reply #16 on: March 04, 2003, 09:24:32 AM »
Nope. He's a russian immigrant, now a US Citizen. Served in the soviet military, Afganistan invasion era. He's a contributing member of american society, and I pick on him way to much for his libertarian laizze-faire ideas.  

I've enjoyed the discussions we've had so far... and have learned a few things in the process. I can't say as I admire his hero's, but I sure admire his accomplishments in making it here and being successful in his life. He's got kids in school, and lives in our world.. seeing how he sees american society is educational to say the least. :)
The price of Freedom is the willingness to do sudden battle, anywhere, any time and with utter recklessness...

...at home, or abroad.

Offline GRUNHERZ

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« Reply #17 on: March 04, 2003, 10:15:55 AM »
Gold is useful because it is consistent in quality, has minimal transaction costs today, you dont really "buy" gold only warehouse recipts,  and the price of gold is equal everywhere in the world. Oil for example would not work because it varies in quality, has enormous shipping costs which vary from region to region etc etc.

That said gold is not money nor should money be backed by gold. Gold has no intrinsic value that gives it a right to determine a nations money supply. If an economy grows and the need for a larger money supply becomes apparent one would have to then find more gold - which is difficult but also more important the quantity of gold found is rather arbitrary. So for example during times of crisis like WW1 and WW2  nations moved away from the gold standard for those very reason - they needed more money and it was difficult to get to south africa and ship gold back - pesky u-boats.  So money supply based on gold is really not that stable as you think or even desirable.

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« Reply #18 on: March 04, 2003, 11:00:34 AM »
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So for example during times of crisis like WW1 and WW2  nations moved away from the gold standard for those very reason - they needed more money and it was difficult to get to south africa and ship gold back - pesky u-boats.  So money supply based on gold is really not that stable as you think or even desirable.


Gruhn, before the trick they used to separate the money from the gold counterpart, there was a system to print more money...

By diminishing the represented value in gold, the so called "devaluation". ;)

Has been a trick, but from then our economic world is based on a big bluff.

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« Reply #19 on: March 04, 2003, 11:02:22 AM »
Oh anyway a lot of nations used to back up the money with silver instead of gold.