Author Topic: How Did We Survive?? (Read 828 times)

Toad · « **Reply #15 on:** March 03, 2003, 03:14:16 PM »

I declare BS.

That sure isn't the way it reads.

What you wrote is more unexamined "poster think"....

I grew up in the '50's and we basically didn't have diddly. I loved it. Some of the happiest times in my life because we WERE and we VALUED family. And that's all it took.

Rude · « **Reply #16 on:** March 03, 2003, 03:30:50 PM »

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Originally posted by Frogm4n
the supposed "golden days" were not very golden unless you were upper middle class and white.

Well, I thought long and hard.....yup.....this is the most ignorant statement I've read in a long time on this board and there have been some doosies.

Sheesh.

Frogm4n · « **Reply #17 on:** March 03, 2003, 03:37:13 PM »

awesome ill take that. yes it was pretty stupid. the point i was trying to get across didnt get across, buts thats okay its my fault for not expressing it in the right way. Like i stated before the "golden years" in my mind is what people that reminisce about the 50s talk of. You know the old people that whine about how it "used to be". no crime more money "less upity black people" (actually quote from an old man i used to know) etc.... anyways it was off topic and i come off looking like a complete idiot while im only a idiot.

Rude · « **Reply #18 on:** March 03, 2003, 03:51:02 PM »

Don't be so hard on yourself:)

I can gaurantee you that the years after WW2 thru the early seventies were a much better time to raise children and in general, just to be living.

Much more sane than what we have today....remember, just because things are easier and more efficient, does not mean they are better.

midnight Target · « **Reply #19 on:** March 03, 2003, 04:01:36 PM »

AKIron · « **Reply #20 on:** March 03, 2003, 04:34:27 PM »

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Originally posted by Frogm4n
i come off looking like a complete idiot while im only a idiot.

Well, you do have your squads rep to live up to.

Hangtime · « **Reply #21 on:** March 03, 2003, 11:05:01 PM »

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Well, you do have your squads rep to live up to.

he might be an ass, be he's OUR ass. If the SBM's claim Sandy, than this one's our prize sarcastic jewel. besides, he's taken the heat off me and Animal.

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Yes, but we didn't have to deal with the Great Depression, tuberculosis, Herpes, AIDS, crack cocaine, or more recently, terrorism.

Nah, just civil rights, vietnam, the cold war, MAD, the Draft, LSD, coke, the tobacco industry, life in prison for a joint, the FBI, McCarthyism, and Leave it to Beaver.

I can sympathise with the original posters intent.. and I also respect the losses we faced.. some of us didn't make it. Those that did were changed by the experience. Darwin at work.

I wonder what this new generation of coddled panzies will bring us to in the next 50 years? Sometimes i think improved medical technology is a curse. I don't think I wanna live to see it.

lazs2 · « **Reply #22 on:** March 04, 2003, 08:48:23 AM »

frogum... I believe that a lot of the minorities had happier times too. What with gangs and crack and all..

I grew up in the fifties. There were some dark things but... all in all...

Watched a 64 Pontiac GTO commercial and the women driving and riding in the car weren't wearing seat belts... they still were managing to smile tho. Seat belts and helmets... what's next? can't have firearms?

What a bunch of girly men we have become..
lazs

Saurdaukar · « **Reply #23 on:** March 04, 2003, 08:56:21 AM »

I dunno if the change in how kids grow up is that drastic. Only 10-15 years ago it seemed that myself and my freinds were always coming home carrying one buddy with a busted leg or arm... or my mother was driving one of us to the hospital for stiches because we jumped off a 20 foot cliff to see what would happen.

All of us had video games, movies, etc but we would always be outside. I dont think electronics can be blamed for creating couch potato kids. If the kid wants to stay inside, thats it - games or no games.

Today in my area it is actually illegal for a child under a certain age to be on a bike without a helmet. Same holds true for skates... skates for crists sake. So now what you have is a 12 year old kid rolling around on roller blades wearing class 3 body armor. Helmet, knee pads, elbow pads, wrist guards, gloves, shin pads... you get the idea.

When I was younger, we used to play rollar hockey in the streets constantly - we didnt use helmets or pads... hell, we'd have an "injury" everytime we played. (learned to drive a manual transmission on the way to the hospital at age 15). I even broke my arm (the first time) in Kindergarden - on school grounds - after school was over - playing football without any teacher paying attention to us - without filing a lawsuit.... imagine that.

We used to get hurt - it was just part of the activity. Today it seems that parents want to protect their kids from everything - its just gotten a little bit out of control. 60 pounds of body armor on rollar skates for what? To prevent a skinned knee? Get over it.

narsus · « **Reply #24 on:** March 04, 2003, 09:22:48 AM »

Well my childhood which I consider to be before high school was fun, many friends doing stupid stuff on bicycle's and skateboards.

Never lost a friend to violent death, cancer yes though.

I think a good point to make is, with all these rules we have now, helmets, seat belts and the like. Are there more or less deaths than say 30 years ago or even 20 for that matter.

Gunthr · « **Reply #25 on:** March 04, 2003, 09:32:26 AM »

I'm another one that grew up in the 50's and 60's. What a freaking blast, is all I can say.

I absolutely loved it. My kids don't get to do half the things that we got to do back then.

I think kids today have a lot more to worry about than we did.

Dowding · « **Reply #26 on:** March 04, 2003, 09:41:34 AM »

The introduction of seat-belt laws in Britain reduced the car accident death-rate by at least 3 times, comparing today to the 1950s. Factor in the more miles we do and we probably have a death rate that is 6 times lower than in 1955.

lazs2 · « **Reply #27 on:** March 04, 2003, 10:38:32 AM »

dowding... I guess this is the point that we part ways. I think adults have a right to wear or not wear seatbelts as they choose. The death toll has absolutely nothing to do with it. Same for helmets for adults riding bicycles or motorcycles.
lazs

AKIron · « **Reply #28 on:** March 04, 2003, 10:45:54 AM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
dowding... I guess this is the point that we part ways. I think adults have a right to wear or not wear seatbelts as they choose. The death toll has absolutely nothing to do with it. Same for helmets for adults riding bicycles or motorcycles.
lazs

I'd agree with ya Lazs if I didn't have to pay the hospital bill of some fool intent on maiming himself or others. I think this conversation gets revived about every 6 months.

Pongo · « **Reply #29 on:** March 04, 2003, 10:50:58 AM »

mietla

did you write that? it is very good.
I have to ask if you have any kids? It is amazing how little things have changed in reality. The toys my 9 and 11 year old sons have had the longest are sticks. Sticks they found that swung nice. They have out lasted all the transformers and the N64 and all the little and big gizmos. Just sticks. When 6 inches broke off the bottom of my older sons favorite stick when he was about 9 years old and it was about 5 he was heart broken. He made me promise to keep it forever..
Kids are really simple beasties. They clamor for the newest greatest thing. But they take the most pleasure by far in the simple things. That has not changed.
I had to take off my head phones from aces high last night and tell the boys to stop wrestling and laughing at 10pm..just rolling around on the floor testing each others strength and laughing thier heads off.
Children have not changed.
If we let them be kids they will take up the challenge.

But a very well written piece. Thanks for it.