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Offline Toad

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« Reply #15 on: March 08, 2003, 12:29:45 AM »
Hey, SOB.. would ya spare an old mate a swig? Pass that thing over. Let's move our chairs a bit so the light from the bonfire isn't right in our eyes when the play begins.
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« Reply #16 on: March 08, 2003, 02:50:09 AM »
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Originally posted by SOB
 :D


SOB



Honestly what could I say ?

Batz posted a combat reccord of one of our greatest shame.
Hangtime pissed me again showing is complete lack of respect for the fallen and showed again that being a vet don't preserve you to be a complete bellybutton hole.


So all is fine and normal.

Show must go on.



PS : didn't seen any mention of the Normandie-Niemen ,Sqd Alsace ,Ile de France 1 division Blindée ,serment de Kouffra,Leclerc ...
I guess it's normal.

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« Reply #17 on: March 08, 2003, 03:01:08 AM »
Booooo!  The least you could do is rebut with some of the utterly retarded things that the US Military has accomplished in the past.  Surely there can't be a lack of material.  :)


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« Reply #18 on: March 08, 2003, 03:17:24 AM »
tough toejam, froggie.
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« Reply #19 on: March 08, 2003, 03:23:33 AM »
I only answered this question

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Was there a French SS unit?


Now if someone else wants to post about allied french units go ahead.




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Country/Ethnicity /  Estimated # of volunteers /SS Units
 
Albanian  / 3,000  / 21st SS Division
 
Belgian: Flemish /  23,000  / 5th SS Div., 27th SS Div.
 
Belgium: Walloon  / 15,000  / 5th SS Div., 28th SS Div.
 
British Commonwealth (English) /  50  /  British Freikorps
 
Bulgaria  / 200-1,000?  / Bulgarisches Reg.
 
Croatia (includes Bosnian Muslims) /   30,000  / 7th SS Div., 13th SS Div., 23rd SS Div.  

Denmark  / 10,000  / Freikorps Danemark, / 11th SS Div.
 
Indian  / 3,500 /  Volunteer Leg.
 
Estonia  / 20,000 /  20th SS Div.
 
Finland  / 1,000 /  Volunteer Bat.
 
Hungarians /  15,000? /  25th SS Div., 26th SS Div.,33rd SS Div.
 
Latvia  / 39,000  / 15th SS Div., 19th SS Div.
 
Netherlands /  50,000 /  23rd SS Div., 34th SS Div.
 
Norway /  6,000  / 5th SS Div., 6th SS Div., 11th SS Div., Volunteer Leg.
 
France  / 8,000  / 33rd SS Div.
 
Italy  / 20,000  / 29th SS (Italian)
 
Poland/Ukraine  / 25,000  / 14th SS Div.
 
Russian (Belorussia)  / 12,000  / 29th SS Div., 30th SS Div.
 
Russian (Cossak)  / 40,000  / XV SS Kosaken-Kavallerie-Korps
 
Russian (Turkic)  / 8,000  / Ostürkische SS , Tatarishe SS
 
Rumania  / 3,000?  / Waffen-Grenadierregiment der SS (rumänisches 1)
 
Serbia  / 15,000  /  Volunteer Corps
 
Spain  / 200 - 1,000? /  Spanische-Freiwilligen-Kompanie der SS 101
 
Sweden, Switzerland & Luxemburg  / 3,000?  / 5th SS Div., 11th SS Div.

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« Reply #20 on: March 08, 2003, 03:24:12 AM »
Hang: How much Research did you put into that last post of yours :)
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« Reply #21 on: March 08, 2003, 05:46:20 AM »
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Originally posted by straffo
PS : didn't seen any mention of the Normandie-Niemen ,Sqd Alsace ,Ile de France 1 division Blindée ,serment de Kouffra,Leclerc ...


I can honestly say I know zero about any of those units with the exception of Normandie-Niemen.
I'd be interested to hear more about them Straffo.

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« Reply #22 on: March 08, 2003, 06:18:16 AM »
Don't stop short there Batz. I'd like to know how many Americans went and fought for the Germans.

I'll wager that more Frenchmen fought for the Allies than for the Germans. From the Battle of Britain onwards...

Hangtime - French naval ships were blown out of the water in a sneak attack by the Royal Navy. If French captains did scuttle there ships, it was to avoid letting them fall into German hands.

You're just ranting mate - and are being very disrespectful to the Frenchmen and women who died fighting for their country after it fell, either in open warfare or as guerillaros.
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« Reply #23 on: March 08, 2003, 07:10:23 AM »
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Originally posted by SOB
Booooo!  The least you could do is rebut with some of the utterly retarded things that the US Military has accomplished in the past.  Surely there can't be a lack of material.  :)


SOB


I would have better post some combat record of french troop instead of bashing the US .
French and US have a lot of black period in their history But only what you will do count otherwise I'll spend my time bashing the German or the Brit...

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« Reply #24 on: March 08, 2003, 07:44:29 AM »
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I am not trying to flame France, I would just like to know what they  did to help. [/B]



I don't buy that, GtoRa2.

Look in ya own backyard for some blindspots in history than come back and bash on other countries.


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« Reply #25 on: March 08, 2003, 07:54:19 AM »
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Look in ya own backyard for some blindspots in history than come back and bash on other countries.



Well listen to the pot calling the kettle black.

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« Reply #26 on: March 08, 2003, 12:12:29 PM »
Those are SS units Dowding and no US citizens were in the SS unless you know something I dont.

Vichy France was allied will Germany so if you include the all those in the Vichy military as serving wiith the Germans then you can hardly conclude "more French served with the allies then Germany". I guess you would loose your wager.

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« Reply #27 on: March 08, 2003, 12:25:44 PM »
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Originally posted by Batz

Sweden, Switzerland & Luxemburg / 3,000? / 5th SS Div., 11th SS Div.
 

For Sweden it should be 315, I doubt the other two had ~2500.

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« Reply #28 on: March 08, 2003, 12:30:06 PM »
Straffo if your .gov had supported the US in the Iraq issue, you would be dear friends and war heroes.

Same goes for every other goverment, so watch out who you disagree with

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« Reply #29 on: March 08, 2003, 12:41:22 PM »
I came across a listing of 5 American citizens who actually signed up in the SS.  They were POWs I recall, except for one who deserted in the Middle East, made his way to Italy, then behind Axis lines.  After the war this enterprising individual was tried and imprisoned for desertion, then released, then imprisoned on the treason charge.  At least a couple of the others died in combat.

Vichy France was formally neutral, but  tilted toward Germany.  Churchill attacking the French Navy at Oran didnt help Vichy's attitude toward the British any.  (That's also why some of the British troops landing on French territory in Operation Torch carried American flags.)  When the Allies invaded North Africa, the Germans occupied all of Vichy, and the French fleet at Toulon scuttled itself to stay out of German hands.  At this point, many of the Vichy troops in France deserted into the brush ("maquis") with their weapons, swelling the numbers and effectiveness of the resistance many times over.