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Re: Typical right winger
« Reply #30 on: March 17, 2003, 12:32:38 AM »
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Everyone is NOT entitled to their point of view.....in the fairy tale land of "conservatives."


Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. However, they are not entitled to their own facts.
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Re: Move to Iran
« Reply #31 on: March 17, 2003, 12:34:00 AM »
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If you want to live under a government ran by right wing religious nut jobs.


As opposed to left-wing athiest nut jobs?
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« Reply #32 on: March 17, 2003, 12:44:28 AM »
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This is not news.  This has been policy since I can remember.  It was policy when Reagan was in office, when Bush Sr. was in office and when Clinton was in office.  Someone walks up and ask "Would they shoot someone who was trying to destroy sensitive equipment?"  The answer would have been "Yes" anytime during the last 2 decades (that I know of... moreso for those that have been there longer).

If you want to see the extent to which this works... look up what happened when protestors tried to lay across train tracks to stop a train that was carrying nuclear weapons.  Guess that was about 10-15 years ago... but it would happen again if someone tried the same thing.

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What did they do the train protesters?

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« Reply #33 on: March 17, 2003, 01:03:30 AM »
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What did they do the train protesters?
The train did not stop.  Most protestors got out of the way.

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« Reply #34 on: March 17, 2003, 01:55:57 AM »
Most! Muhhhaaaa, sometimes I really appreciate your sense of humor. :D

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Re: Re: Hmmmm, unarmed war protestors?
« Reply #35 on: March 17, 2003, 08:31:56 AM »
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shut up weazel, you are starting to sound more and more like a handsomehunk every day


He passed that threshold long ago.
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« Reply #36 on: March 17, 2003, 08:38:32 AM »
I accidentally crossed the red lined perimeter at the wrong spot in an Air Force truck once at Carswell AFB when there were B52s there in the '70s. I didn't get far before half the SPs on the base had me surrounded and spread eagled. I have little doubt they'd have shot me on the spot had I resisted. I was so embarrassed at the time I'd almost wish they had.
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« Reply #37 on: March 17, 2003, 09:04:23 AM »
I fly out of Quantico Marine Base, they have a secured field within a secured base.  Two entrances to the field, one for the actual military personnell and one for the Flying club.  Both gates are heavily armed.  QMB also services the presidents helo's so on take-off on Rnwy 2 if we drift left of the center line, buh bye.  they'll shoot us down.  or on landing for 20.  there is no left traffic for rnwy 2 only right traffic.

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« Reply #38 on: March 17, 2003, 12:01:48 PM »
Definitely not new policy.  I was authorized to shoot to kill anyone unknown that did not identify themselves properly.  Simple commands to be followed people.  Halt.  Who goes there?  Step forward and identify yourself.

Those commands are not followed, you get a bullet.  This was before and during the last time we were in the Gulf.

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Re: Hmmmm, unarmed war protestors?
« Reply #39 on: March 17, 2003, 12:50:19 PM »
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They can't use rubber bullets against unarmed people?
 
Is this America's Tiananmen Square?


 Tiananmen Square is a public place,whereas a military base is a restricted place.

If you trespass on one,you run this risk of getting shot.This is not something new that the Bush Adm. created,it's been going on for a very long time.

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« Reply #40 on: March 17, 2003, 01:06:00 PM »
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one can only hope :)


Jeez, surfing at Jalama Beach is going to get interesting.

Maybe I'll take up wind surfing, faster target yaknow.

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« Reply #41 on: March 17, 2003, 01:22:29 PM »
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So much for passive resistance.

Once "protestors" enter a United States military base with the intent to damage equipment or harm personell, they are no longer protestors, but attackers... to be dealt with accordingly, of course.

Warmongering protestors!!!  Wait...


Where does it say they intend "harm personel" ?

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Tear gas and water cannons work wonders against this type of protesting (Unauthorized entry into a restricted area).
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Re: Typical right winger
« Reply #42 on: March 17, 2003, 02:00:51 PM »
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Conservatives embody the very idea of treason. They don't like America.

They actively work everyday to destroy America from within by attempting to squash any kind of debate or criticism of Dubya (who has no respect for working people or our opinions).

This coming from the people who had no problem disrespecting the Office of the President from January 20, 1993-January 20, 2001 with name-calling, lies, and innuendos.....most of which were unfounded.

Everyone is NOT entitled to their point of view.....in the fairy tale land of "conservatives."

Adolph would be proud of you concho.


They'll never get it, weazel. When our Bill of Rights and our Constitution are so ammended that our basic freedoms no longer exist, they'll blame the lefty-liberal-socialist-commie-facist-Democrats.
I can see the (Police State) path we're heading down now:
Guilty until proven innocent. Unlimited time in jail until one's court date is set - if there ever will be. Abortion will be illegal with heavy jail time (if not the death penalty for the mother and doctors performing abortions). Pledge of allegience will be mandatory not only at schools, but at all private, and public meetings. All weapons (firearms, bows and arrows, crossbows, hunting type knives, etc) will be outlawed. Books(some) will be banned. Unlimited wiretaps. Internet spies. Snail mail being monitored. Everyone will have to carry ID passes and have them available to show to any security force (Forget your pass, jail time until they have your ID confirmed). ACLU won't exist. Unions won't be around either. Don't think OSHA will either. Creationism will replace evolution in the public schools (if there are any left). Protesting won't be a right, nor will it be tolerated. Heck, this very type of post I'm writing now would probably be cause for an "interview" with "security" police in the future.
 
Democracy, freedom, dissent, and liberty? Civil Rights? What's that?

Just several things we have to look forward to (Gawd, I hope not). Take away some freedoms, where does one stop? Tough to get back what one has lost especially if the tools for recovery are gone.

I wonder if we'll have to go through "Goose-stepping in unison" class and "Book burning get togethers?"
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« Reply #43 on: March 17, 2003, 02:07:10 PM »
Well, I kinda look at it this way. If someone is breaking into your house, are you going to shoot him with a rubber bullet?
"My grandaddy always told me, "There are three things that'll put a good man down: Losin' a good woman, eatin' bad possum, or eatin' good possum."" - Holden McGroin

(and I still say he wasn't trying to spell possum!)

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« Reply #44 on: March 17, 2003, 07:40:48 PM »
Don't forget your white sheet and hobnailed boots.

The Klan runs the Air Force? WOW. To think I would have never found this out if werent for you. Thanks man!

America is threatened by Iraq in no way, it's just plain rediculous

  No, its Germany thats safe. You dont want to pour anthrax on the guy your in bed with.

Where does it say they intend "harm personel" ?

 Yeah, good point. Let them run free, break some windows, let the air out of some tires, but if they piss in the coffee pot blow a whistle real loud and show them a badge.



Bush, please take ya soldiers back from Germany!

 Whats the beer like in Poland?